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paul ian aliling Posted on Oct 23, 2011
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My brake pedal goes all the way to the floor there is no any brake oil leak i replace the brake master cylinder i bleed the system but still the same what is the correct procedure to bleed brake system ford expedition 1997

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Sounds like a bad or empty Master cylinder or slave brake system leakage . Check the master for full brake fluid. Look for leaks at each wheel.
Maybe the system has to be bled.
Hope this helps.

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Fill master cylinder, start at right rear. the way I do it is make sure cap is back on master cylinder. pump the brakes a few times then hold them. have another person open the bleeder valve at the tires until brakes go to floor. hold them down until bleeder is retightened but be sure master cylinder is not out of fluid. then go to left rear and do the same procedure, then right front, then left front. check fluid and if air is all out there should be brakes. good-day ! THIS IS HOW I HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT ! heres a little trick of sorts. you can change a master cylinder, and if you bench bleed it first. and no fluid is lost from the master cylinder lines you do not need to bleed the whole system. but make sure cylinder is full of fluid before putting on vehicle and all air is out of master cylinder.

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