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Line in audio from external source i.e. blu ray, or Mac always using xlr in's, records over modulated. Even when using comp or limit general setting. Do I need to use a pad to knock the signal down?

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Yes, you need to pad it down. This recorder is likely to accept around a -50 Db and the other sources you mentioned are probably +4 Db. Using a limiter and compressors will result in distortion as your inputs exceed the range those can handle. I would use about a 40 Db pad trial to start. That is a voltage ratio of 1:100. Make yourself a voltage divider with say a 100K and a 1K putting the inout across the series combination and taking the out to the recorder across the 1K.

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