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WATER KEEPS RUNNING AFTER A FLUSH. IF YOU TAP THE BLACK TUBE IN THE BACK IT STOPS. IT LOOKS LIKE AN ADJUSTMENT ON A SMALL BLACK PIECE ATTACHED TO THE TUBE. SHOULD THAT BE TURNED SLIGHTLY CLOCK WISE OR COUNTER?

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Fluid master ballcock,counter clockwise,water level should be 1'' below overflow tube,you'll probubly have to adjust a few times (flushes) to get it right

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