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My bottom thread is loose when sewing a straight stitch

The bottom thread is loose when sewing a straight stitch. It does not appear to happen with any other stitch, I have been able to complete my project by using a zigzag stitch. I oiled my machine, this improved the overall performance of my machine but did not correct the straight stitch problem. I also tried using differnt fabrics and different tension settings.

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  • Anonymous May 03, 2013

    fabric face up is stitching bottom side is not, is the setting off.

  • Anonymous May 03, 2013

    Thank you it is working.

  • Anonymous Mar 25, 2014

    no stich from top or bottom not sure whats happening

  • Julia Wood
    Julia Wood Nov 26, 2017

    There is a very small screw on the side of the bobbin holder. "Righty tighty, Lefty Loosy." Tighten the bottom thread by turning the screw to the right, by a small amount. If not enough, tested on a scrap of fabric, then turn right a bit more. Something my Dad taught me, who knows why.

  • Mary Dunn
    Mary Dunn Apr 14, 2020

    i would rethread my machine totally, make sure that i have the exact same thread top and bottom. Now when you thread, pull your thread and make sure it is seated in each guide, (always thread it with the presser foot up) pull the thread back and forth, like floss) now, after that put the presser foot down, then pull the bottom and top threads together, leave a 6" tail and you should be set. DO NOT MONKEY WITH THE YOUR BOBBIN CASE, IT WILL BE SCREWED UP AND YOU WILL HAVE TO REPLACE.

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Ensure that all is clean and free of lint and jams, this is the most likely cause....now for tension troubleshooting .......

This solution is for tension problems...if you cannot form any sort of stitch, the issue is quite different, so please let me know if you need a different problem solved.....

It is quite long, but just work through each section in order.
The "knotting up" can reveal a lot. If you have loose threads on one side or the other, the tension on the opposite side will be the culprit.

QUICK SUMMARY FIRST:
Ensure sharp new needle,
Thread guides and Bobbin are Clean & Clear of lint
Set Top Tesion to 4 ....then....
Balance Bobbin to suit.

TOP THREAD TENSION:
If the looping threads are on the underside as you sew, it is the top tension. Top tension ought to be between 4 & 6 (this variation to allow for the different weights of fabric in your
projects).

IS YOUR NEEDLE SHARP ?
If you are using a needle that has seen quite a deal of work, or you suspect it may be blunt, change it for a new one !

TOP TENSION & GUIDES:
Make sure that when you thread the machine the presser foot is up so the thread goes between the discs and not to one side, top tension between 4 and 6, and that you have threaded through all the guides, including the last one, usually on the needle arm, just above the needle clamp.

It may be there is lint trapped between the discs, this will keep them slightly apart and reduce the actual tension, sometimes dramatically.

If tensions appear correct, and the thread is definitely in the channel between the discs, but still too loose and looping, try raising presser foot and remove your thread.

Now, with a 2" (50mm) wide strip piece of fabric 8 - 10" (20 - 25cm) moistened with methylated or denatured spirit, gently insert the fabric strip and clean between the discs with
a see saw / to and fro action.

In the worst cases, gentle use of a needle to pick & remove the jam may be necessary, but be very gentle and make sure the tension is set at Zero and the presser foot is raised, (to
disengage tension plates).... do not gouge or score the plates, they need a polished surface to work correctly.

BOBBIN TENSION:
Far less common, but if the loose threads are on the top, it is bobbin tension that is loose, it too may have lint in the spring and be giving a "false" tension.

I would not recommend fiddling with bobbin tension without good reason, it may end up with missing small screws and spring pieces, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean
the hook race area (where bobbin case sits)

...this is just good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....

just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint. If there is a significant amount of lint, use a vacuum and small brush to get the worst.

Then wipe all this area with a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (not soaked) with methylated spirit, especially if there appears to be fine dirty deposits....oil and lint combine to conspire against you.

If it seems likely that you ......really ....do .....actually .....need .....to adjust the bobbin case, first check there is no lint trapped in the metal spring where the thread is tensioned.

TOP LOADER:
Drop-in Bobbin case will look similar to this image with the tension screw in the middle of the metalwork....

My bottom thread is loose when sewing a straight s - 4c76dc1.jpg ...the other screw at one end is holding it all together, so beware....it is not a tragedy to undo the whole lot and clean it, but very gingerly and lay the bits out in sequence and orientation, or you risk tearing your hair out !

FRONT LOADER:
....this is a bobbin case from a front loading machine and works in a very similar fashion to the top loader with drop in bobbin, again, if you dismantle it, take care so you can put it all
back properMy bottom thread is loose when sewing a straight s - 165ca5c.jpgmg src="/uploads/images/165ca5c.jpg" alt="165ca5c.jpg" class="h_mi" /> FINISHING UP
GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT:
When you are certain there's no trapped lint in top tension or bobbin, set the top tension to 4 and the bobbin tension to a point where you just begin to feel resistance.

Try using good quality thread of contrasting colours so you can more easily spot the changes.

Set your zigzag to one width less than maximum (eg. 5 of 6 ...or... 4 of 5 etc) and sew a sample for a few inches and check the result.... adjust the bobbin tension screw very little at
a time, perhaps 1/16 of a turn.

You may find you are playing with this balance for some little while and if you are putting the needleplate on and off each time begin to think it cannot be correct to do this.....BUT....it is,
and eventually, you do get a "feel" for the correct tension and then it happens quite quickly.....as a user you won't be doing it very often unless there is lint built up (or are there small hands at work around the house !?!?!)

OTHER ISSUES:
If you live near the ocean as we do, salt air can play havoc with metalwork inside and out, so to help minimise this, keep a few small packets of dessicant (silica gel) in your machine
case....no case ? then make some sort of cover !

Same applies in any damp or humid environment, keep your machine dry and dust free.

Budget for a proper full service every couple of years (more often if heavily used) and if you don't use your machine for a few years, be aware that old oil will dry out and combining with
dust and form a "clag" like glue (another reason for some sort of cover, even a teatowel !)

FINALLY, A WORD ON THREAD:
If it is worth spending the time, energy and money on making something that you would like to give lasting enjoyment......use quality thread, .......it may seem to cost a little more at the
time, but the results, ease of use and added longevity will be worth the extra, and as a bonus, your tension troubles may be fewer and further between, because there is a more consistent diameter with good thread, and less compensating to be done by your tension plates and less thread breaks !


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  • Anonymous Dec 12, 2011

    Thank you, what you say makes sense.

  • Roger Saunders
    Roger Saunders Mar 08, 2015

    Brilliant and most helpful post! Thank Yopu! A lot of very useful tips here. It is possible to have a short bit of thread caught under the bobbin carrier spring, which spoils the tension completely. There are YouTube videos which show how to set the tension properly.

  • Julia Wood
    Julia Wood Nov 25, 2017

    The very small screw on the bobbin needs to be turned to the right. Just a bit at a time.

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In between the tension & the take up there is a check spring, please make sure the thread goes round the tension then over the check spring then under an other bar then up through the take up then down to the needle. good luck

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A lose tension of the bottom thread can be caused by deposits under the small spring plate on the bobbin holder. Remove the tension screw on the bobbin holder, remove the small plate, and clean the lint that was trapped in between. Refit, Adjust only so much that you can (Just!!) lift the bobbin case with the threaded bobbin inside by the thread. If it falls, too lose, if it does not give at all, too tight.!
Test with contrasting upper and lower threads (say black and white colours!) and see where the treads meet in the fabric. If all on top, tension bottom too lose and vice versa. Usually bottom thread tension is left alone, and all is adjusted at the top tensioner. But sometimes the cleaning is necessary!

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Sometimes simply adding a new needle fixes the problem

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Usually, if the top thread is not pulling the bobbin thread up into the fabric, the upper tension is too loose. However, if the bobbin thread is taut so the upper thread canNOT pull it up, the bobbin tension is too tight.

The tensions are ideal when both top and bobbin threads meet in the Middle of the fabric.

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So your set up to sew zig/zag and only get the zig or the zag : )


Could be top thread tension is too high. Switch to a straight stitch and reduce tension until top thread starts to appear on bottom. Then go back to zig/zag and see if it sews properly.


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If the top stitch is loose, then you need to tighten the bobbin tension: if the bottom stitch is loose, tighten the top tension. Hope this helps. It could also be the size needle and thread you are using for a particular fabric. Different fabrics require different notions.
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