This assumes that you have a basic Kenmore / Whirlpool top load, direct drive, neutral drain (it doesn't spin until the pump removes most of the water) machine.
First, see the Sears parts site for your washer(s):
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/index.action
Enter the model number (###.######) and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.
Check the part numbers for both machines in the "Console" section.
Also see the following Whirl[pool Service manual for top load, direct drive washers.
https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf
Whirlpool top load, washers use one of two different timers. Depending on the timer the knob comes off differently.
For most, by holding the back of the timer shaft with a thin needle nosed pliers, the knob unscrews.
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