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Posted on Aug 10, 2010

Toilet cistern syphon unit part 272.324.KG.1 dated 30.06.2004. I have a problem in that there is a permanent seepage from the cistern into yhe pan, as the level drops so the inlet valve opens allowing it to be restored. This is continuous and happens every 20mins or so. Is there an adjustment or does it need a new washer somewhere? The old fashioned ballcock never gave the problems these clever new plastic contraptions do!!

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  • Posted on Oct 31, 2009

SOURCE: my toilet cistern is continually hissing

Hi I have exactly the same problem, in fact it could have been me writing this - 3 toliets fine, main bathroom hisses. The Geberit flushing ciphen on the left (the smaller one) has been replaced and there is still a problem. If you look carefully,the water level needs to come up over the lip of an opening on the Geberit part and this causes the valve mechanism to shut off and stop the hissing. It is fine for about 40 minutes and then the hissing starts again if you don't flush it. The reason is that the water level has gone down but there is no obvious signs of where the water is going. It could be that the central flush mechanism is leaking slightly. I am going to replace this part next. If I were you I'd see if you are getting any water leakage into the pan when toilet not in use to see if the water level in the cistern is going down James T

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 15, 2009

SOURCE: after cistern refill outflow into toilet bowl

hi i would suggest your ball valve in the cistern needs ajusting remove the top of the cistern you will see the ajustment screw at the end fo the ball **** arm hope this helps

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 29, 2010

SOURCE: I need part number 272.324.KG.1 syphon

I would recommend calling Duravit USA at 1-770-931-3575 as a starting point. After some Q&A they should be able to help you get in touch with the nearest supplier to you so that the part can be ordered. Many manugacturers wil not work directly with the retail public. Also many of them require minimum purchases from their vendors. Y might be required to prepay s&h up front to expedite your item. Sometimes even that is not allowed.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2010

SOURCE: cannot remove top of cistern

There are some dual flush cisterns where you have to depress one button to reveal a cavity in the second button. Put a screwdriver in that cavity to lever out the second button, then release the first button and prise that out.

Underneath the buttons is a screw which must be unscrewed to release the cistern lid.

Not sure if this will apply to you... but if not, good luck anyway.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 29, 2011

SOURCE: Toilet Flush. We have an integrated toilet

Good day!

OK please double check the connection and proper installation of it..

and try to look the cable if you press the button it should go up together with the rubber..

try to adjust the cable to upward..

if you have follow up question just add a comment to give you another idea..

thanks for using fixya and have a nice day!!!

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How does the cistern fit onto the toilet and connect to the water outlet. Does it got onto the toilet seat if so how do you connect the water supply?

normally the cistern is mounted to the wall and the pipe to the bowl (pan) is just connected by a rubber grommet at the pan inlet and a threaded nut that compresses a rubber ring in the cistern end
water supply is via a hose from the isolator tap next to the an up to the pipe under the cistern
Aug 26, 2017 • Home
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FIXING A TOILET THAT WILL NOT FLUSH!!! a simple but very effective money saving...

This simple how to, is based upon most lever operated toilets, with the cistern mounted above the toilet bowl. The make and model of toilet used for this feature is of the following:
Toilet and internal syphon
DUDLEY ELITEDudley S7 Cascade syphon
Problem:
My toilet will not flush, but the ball float valve is working and there is water in the cistern; no leaks present and the flushing lever is not broken or disconnected, what do I do?
Answer:
first isolate the water to the toilet or the main water supply to the house. Bail out the water from the cistern using a small jug or cup, (or you can syphon the water manually using a hosepipe or similar pipe, a towel to cover your mouth, and either a bucket or the toilet bowl) and remove water from the bottom of the cistern with a sponge.


Changing the syphon in a toilet that is not close coupled is far easier as you do not need to remove the cistern from the wall!


Undo the lower of the two large nuts beneath the cistern using a large pipe wrench or pair of water pump pliers, now disconnect the flush pipe and push it to one side.
Place a bucket or bowl beneath the cistern and undo the Nut which is immediately below the cistern (syphon replacing nut), some water may be released by the syphon, take note of any washers that are removed as new ones need fitting when replacing the siphon.
Unhook the lift rod from the flushing lever and remove the syphon.


Inside the toilet syphon, there will be a small plastic piece of sheet called a diaphragm; you can fabricate a replacement using the plastic title cover on a DVD case. Cut this to the exact same size and shape as the original part, and fit this to where the original diaphragm was. This is your new replacement.


Refitting is a complete reversal of removal, be sure to fit any washers (preferably new ones) that you have taken out. Ensure everything is tight but do not over tighten before refilling the cistern



on Aug 09, 2010 • Plumbing
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The toilet won't flush out I have changed the flapper and float but won't flush out the bowl

I am not familiar with the term flapper. I don't think our toilet cisterns use a flapper.

All the cisterns I have seen work by a syphon action and mostly the only thing that goes wrong with them is the thin polythene disc buried inside the syphon. The disc lays across a hollow piston and the linkage lifts the piston to begin the syphon action and the flush.

There are a few designs of push-button cisterns designed to be more economic on water which I haven't yet seen the inside of but I expect they too will work on a syphon principle - in the absence of a pump how else could it work?

in almost every case of a syphon not working (assuming everything is more or less as it should be) is air getting in somewhere and preventing the mechanism lifting the head of water to begin the syphon.

Sorry I can't help further.
Mar 28, 2016 • Home
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Why is my derwent macdee cistern not flushing properly and solids not going away?

Hi anon the toilet probably needs the syphon changing. The syphon causes the push down the pan for the solids to go.
Feb 16, 2015 • Home
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Grohe service

toilet will need syphon replacing. the lid should lift of the cistern, some have the push buttons screwed down to the syphon and to remove them just turn the ring around them anti-clockwise.
Aug 22, 2014 • Home
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After automatic flush, water continuously runs into bowl. The water is coming from the upper bowl above the wand area.

i would think the syphon is not closing after the flush, so as the cistern fills it just runs straight into the pan. you'll need to replace the syphon...
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When I flush the tank only half empties and not enough flushing action is the result as well as the bowl does not adequately fill after the flush.

Hi, if you remove the cistern lid and flush the toilet, look at the float (back left) to see if this is rising freely when the water fills back up. Once the water has stopped filling, check the fill level lines on the large syphon in the middle of cistern. Your model of toilet has an eco flush which will be lowest line to save water, so not as much water will flush out. There is a long plastic screw on the float (back left) which you can turn to adjust the water level to the higher line on syphon (1.6 gallon flush) and turn it slowley till the water level reaches that mark. flush a couple of times to see it is filling back up to the set amount.
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I need part number 272.324.KG.1 syphon. Where can I get it and how much will it be.

I would recommend calling Duravit USA at 1-770-931-3575 as a starting point. After some Q&A they should be able to help you get in touch with the nearest supplier to you so that the part can be ordered. Many manugacturers wil not work directly with the retail public. Also many of them require minimum purchases from their vendors. Y might be required to prepay s&h up front to expedite your item. Sometimes even that is not allowed.
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Water overflow from cistern to bowl after flushing the water keeps going into the bowl where is the water shut off valve on these toilets?

The shut off valve depends upon where your plumber fitted it and whether one was installed at all. If there's not one near the cistern then you'll need to find the stop valve which is on either the main household cold water tank outlet or if the cistern is filled directly by mains water then you'll need to turn off the main supply valve or even the valve in the street.

The fault is caused by a failed syphon assembly inside the cistern. Although it's possible to remove the faulty part and replace it the sheer number of different syphon assembly designs and the age of many of them usually mean that it's quicker and simpler to replace the entire assembly. Without knowing exactly which make and model of syphon you have it's impossible to give you any more specific details as the operating methods vary so widely, but if you're mechanically minded then you may well find that you can dismantle the old syphon and locate the failed seal. Sometimes all you need to repair them is an old car tyre inner tube and a pair of scissors. A repair often costs pennies and takes hours, a complete replacement syphon assembly often costs between £13 and £60 depending on the model and design (plus labour) but usually takes no more than around fifteen to twenty minutes to replace if the cistern is close-coupled to the toilet and a bit longer if it's an old-fashioned high level cistern with restricted access.

Given the need for guesswork based on the limited details in your question I hope that you appreciate my reply and ask only that you return the favour by rating my answer.
Oct 01, 2009 • Home
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When cistern fills with water it leaks into the bowl

Hi,

This is caused by the 'syphon' mechanism sticking, quite often nowadays the 'brilliant' plastic push button/ syphon combo sticks, and most toilets are fitted with an internal overflow, lift the lid on the cistern and check for anything causing an obstruction.

More often than not, it's a tiny bit of scale that causes such a headache, and the fact that nothing is made with any quality nowadays!

If you can't see what's wrong call a plumber, he/she will solve it.

I hope this helps

Steve
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