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Thread is balling up and not allowing the fabric to move it isn't stitching right

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This can be caused by several different things. Check the threading. Un-thread the machine and follow the guidance on the manual and re-thread the machine. The bobbin, if the bobbin thread that coming out of the bobbin case in a wrong direction, could cause this. Re-set the direction. When you pull thread from the bobbin case, bobbin should roll counter clockwise. The needle, if it is not the right size needle for the fabric or the needle is slightly bent, maybe replace the needle and try with different size of needle. Once its balling up, sometimes it's left some thread in the machine under the needle plate around the feed dog, clean them up. Thread tension, different fabric may need to be adjust the thread tension, try to check this one under the manuals/instruction. When ready, check and use a scrap of fabric/remnants!

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Uneven stitches or sometimes loose when serging could indicate that one of the tension devices is faulting, so if this machine is not new and its doing this, it could need a service. Can you get a regular smooth three or 4 thread seam out if it???

It is always good to just recheck the threading path, make sure the thread aerial is up and that a thread hasn't got caught back on the thread stand somewhere if you're getting something wonky happening, threads stream off overlocker cones through the machine so anything wrong in the thread path will throw off the stitching.
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I have cleaned the machine. I have tried both solitions in my Jaome machine and still loops are forming on the botom. i have even moved the little screw on the bobbin- tested the thread and changed the...

If the loops are forming on the bottom it is the TOP thread tension you need to check. Make sure it isn't too loose. Also is the needle the right type and size for the fabric? Check the stitch out on plain cotton fabric if a tension adjustment doesn't fix it.

The TOP thread effects the UNDERSIDE of the stitch and the BOBBIN thread effects the TOPSIDE of the stitch :)
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