SCSI Hard drives

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Sounds like the motherboard bios is only capable of booting from drives connected to the motherboard's ide connector and not additional / or external ide connectors. Looks like you would have to have 1 HDD and the CDRom Drive on the built in ide connector and the other hard drive on the extra ide connector you added. Although that would probably stop the other HDD from booting. Have you thought about putting both operating systems on the same drive. I do it all the time.

Yes and No..

The standard machine only allows SCSI, (no IDE or SATA or SAS connectors...

However SCSI drives are not cheap.. so

To overcome the power issue (you will notice there are no 4 pin molex connectors, or sata power connectors). However there is a 4 pin molex socket on the SCSI backplane. You can use one of those molex adaptor cables (one connector to many) to get power, from the molex you can use a 4 pin to SATA power connector.

Next step is to decide the drive you want to use. I personally use SCSI, SATA, SAS and IDE in mine (overkill I know).

Cheapness says use IDE or SATA. You can get a pci IDE/SATA controller card on ebay dirt cheap (PCI cards are compatible with the large PCIX slots), they dont take the entire "socket" up but they work (be carefull here, there is one 5v pci socket on these machines, and 6 pcix sockets, the pcix sockets will accept 3.3v pci cards (look at the notches).

Next you have to mount them, with a bit of jiggery pokery you can feed the IDE/SATA cables past the SCSI backplane into the hot swap bay. (If you dont have any empty caddy's pick them up off ebay), just remember you cant just pull em out like you can with the SCSI's!) - or use one of the 5 1/2 media bays.

Plud the other ends into the appropriate controller card (as installed in the PCI bus).

Load up the OS, install drivers (if needed - these should come with the pci card(s), use the disk manager to initialise/first format the drives etc.

All done.

I have done this myself running a 2600, with 2X U320 72gb SCSI (on Raid) 1 x IDE CD/DVDRW in Media bay, DAT 27 SCSI (channel B) in the second media bay. 2x 146gb SAS on a DELL SAS pcix card (in 2 of the hot swap bays) and an old 160gb IDE HDD (Funilly enough theres a bit towards the back of the two fans on the SCSI backplane that if you press the 3 1/2 drive against seems to fit perfectly in this place and stay there! (I think thats fluke to be honest).

All done :)

Good Day sir, hi, Have you tried to enable the IDE on BIOS setup. If the Bios setup did not solve the IDE problem, check the IDE port of the HARD drive, check if there are bent pins.
If still wont work, you can buy a PCI to IDE/SATA card, this is an expansion card in PCI format with IDE and SATA port.We use this card incase the IDE or SATA on the motherboard gets bad. Connect it on the available PCI slot. Then connect the IDE cable of the Hard disk to this card. Thats it.

if it's old it's probably IDE also known as PATA. it looks like a wide ribbon. There should be a header on the motherboard that looks exactly like the plug on the back of the hard drive. It will be labeled IDE1 probably if you have it. Old motherboards used to have 2 IDE headers, modern ones have one or none. The ribbon will have three plugs--one for the mobo, and then two spaced closer together for the master and the slave. You need to hook it to the appropriate plug (master if it's the only device on the ribbon) and make sure the jumpers on the HD are set properly to make it self-identify as the master. Good luck!

Good morning! Please make sure that the drive’s power and SATA cables are properly connected. If the Serial ATA host adapter card is installed in a 64-bit PCI slot on the system motherboard, move the card to a 32-bit slot.

Verify that only one power cable (either SATA or legacy) is connected to the drive. Check to see that the power connector and SATA interface cable are securely attached and that the
SATA host adapter card is properly seated in the PCI slot.

The Serial ATA interface connects each drive in a point-to-point configuration with the built-in SATA port on the motherboard or with the SATA host adapter card; therefore eliminating the master/slave relationship as required with EIDE. Each drive utilizes its own
cable for data transfer rates. Jumper settings for Western Digital Serial ATA hard drives are mainly used for enterprise storage environments.

Most third party controller cards and RAID adapters are recognized as a SCSI device under Device Manager. This is normal and will not affect your drive or system performance.

To verify if the Serial ATA drive is recognized by the system, Right-click on the My Computer icon, select Properties, left-click on the Hardware tab, and click on Device Manager in the window. Double-click on Disk Drives. Your new Western Digital Serial ATA drive should be listed as a "SCSI Disk Device" or "Serial ATA Disk Device." If not, make sure that all cables are securely attached and that your system BIOS has been properly configured. regards

there may be some conflict in the jumper settings so just check the jumpers and try to connect it should detect the device ...

if you still persist the problem then just check the ide bus cable there may be some problem in that ...

replace the ide cable and try it ... make sure that the ide slot is working properly ...

regards
-Dileep

see heres the thing when using VM-Ware, VM-Ware doesnt use drivers for your physical hardware, because it emulates the hardware that is seen in the hardware information of your system preferences.

So installing even drivers for the "emulated" hardware will not work, as VM-Ware uses its own drivers for the hardware, which are included with the VM-Ware Tools, if that doesnt seem to work, you may want to contact VM-Ware support, as they may have a better solutiuon.

You can put as many drives as you can fit as long as you have the cables and connection. Usually 4 is the max in a computer, but you can by a SCSI IDE card and add even more. The biggest problem is to make sure that the jumpers are set to slave on one and master on the other. The jumpers are found on the rear of the drives by the power port. The master should be on the end of the cable and the slave should be in the middle. The longest part of the cable will go to the board. Look on your motherboard and you will see an IDE connection and it should have a 1 or a 2 by it; or primary and secondary.
I researched your computer. Here is the list of your specs: I am going to add my notes where you can understand them. I can't fix this for you, but if I helped you get it fixed, please rate it as a fixya. I did more than try; I told you exactly what had to be done.
Manufacturer:Dell, Inc.Part number: D46RL Processor -Type - Intel Pentium 4 2.80 GHz GOOD PROCESSOR FOR AN OLDER SYSTEM - SYSTEM IS OUT DATED BUT STILL OKAY FOR MOST THINGS. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT.
Processor main featuresHyper-Threading Technology -GREAT
Cache Memory - THIS IS PROCESSOR MEMORY -This enables the processor to process things. A Dual or Quad processor is better.
Type-L2 cache-Installed Size-512 KB Mainboard Chipset type - OKAY BUT LIMITS YOU.
Intel 865G - ON MOTHERBOARD USUALLY WITH A HEAT SINK ON IT.
Data bus speed533 MHz - REMEMBER THIS SPEED LIMIT
RAM Installed Size -ONLY 512 MB
-2 GB (max) -NEEDED AND CHEAP RIGHT NOW - IMPROVES SYSTEM AND WILL HELP WHEN MORE DRIVES ARE INSTALLED.
TechnologyDDR SDRAMMemory speed -333 MHz - REMEMBER THIS
Memory specification compliancePC2700RAM form factorDIMM 184-pinRAM featuresTwo DDR channels - THIS MEANS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY 2 ONE GIG STICKS TO UPGRADE. Memory prices for a new computer might be cheaper. Something else to think about.
Storage Controller Type1 x Serial ATA - IntegratedController interface typeSerial ATA-150 -Remember this speed when you buy a hard drive. It is also only an ATA. They now have SATA drives and they get a lot bigger and are faster.
Storage controller interface channel qty2nd belowI could be wrong. Without seeing this board it looks like it might have 4 IDE channels total. Their wording is strange. This is not common on Dell motherboards. Of course Dell did not make the motherboard. They used one from a motherboard company and had the company possibly put their name on it. Could be INTEL, ASUS, GIGABYTE or some other company. This is why it is better to build your own system. You get what you want.
Storage Controller (2nd) Type1 x IDE - Integrated(2nd) storage controller interface typeATA-100 - **Speed change.**
:Controller Interface Type:Channel Qty2 Storage Hard Drive 1 x 80 GB - Standard - DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra) - 7200 rpmHard Drive (2nd) -You could add one here.
Optical Storage - this is on an IDE and will limit you.
TypeDVD-ROM - IDECD / DVD read speed48x (CD) / 16x (DVD) Optical Storage (2nd) Type16x DVD-ROM Drive +2nd optical storage read speed- 48x Storage Removable - This could be an EXTERNAL DRIVE.

Graphics Controller Type- Integrated-Graphics Processor / Vendor This takes away from your installed memory.
Expansion / Connectivity Expansion Bays Total (Free)2 ( 0 ) x Front accessible - 5.25" x 1/2H, 1 ( 1 ) x Front accessible - 3.5" x 1/3H, 2 ( 1 ) x Internal - 3.5" x 1/3HExpansion Slots Total (Free) ( 2 ) x PCI Could add 2 IDE SCSI Cards here.
Interfaces8 x Hi-Speed USB - Could add up to 8 External drives. CD/RW or Hard drives.
Power provided -250 Watt - This could not handle a lot of hard drives. Not enough power. System will not have enough power to run properly. Honestly I would not put a lot of money into this. You will be better off going with an External hard drive. The External hard drive can have its own power source and it will not need the power supply in the computer. So my suggestion would be to upgrade the memory and get an External drive.

Hi,
Sure why not.
You,ll need a ribbon cable also 40 or 80 strand IDE Cable. to connect from hard-drive to Motherboard. If you have an existing connector already in. this should be In IDE 1 Or Primary slot ( on motherboard ) there should also be a secondary IDE Slot.
connect ribbon to IDE 2 Or secondary slot, and to hard-drive.
ensure the jumper on the hard-drive is set to Slave Or Master, if your running another device from that same cable, set to Master/Slave alternate to hard Drive.
Good luck and go for It.
Power Off first.
Motherboards are,nt too happy about Static.
Mike @ compurepair.