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Posted on Feb 26, 2008

Thread knotting around bobbin case

When I try to sew, the upper spool thread gets knotted around the bobbin case and locks the machine up. How do I fix this problem?

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  • tabathagk1o1 Mar 13, 2008

    Same here. When I begin to sew, the top thread gets stuck around the bobbin wheel and my machine locks up. I have tried adjusting the tension, dusting the machine, changing needles, everything. I think my tension **** may be broken. When I adjust it, I don't notice any difference. Should there be a noticable difference in the tension when I pull on the thread after adjustment? HELP!

  • boaterchic Mar 21, 2008

    I have a ellageo machine and I to am having trouble with the top thread knotting up around the bobbin. I love my machine, how can I fix it?

  • Anonymous Mar 27, 2009

    The needle thread gets knotted around my bobbin wheel too! i have absolutely no idea what to do?
    i need help!!!!

  • Anonymous Mar 14, 2014

    thread knotting around bobbin case in singer 5500

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Hello, I had the exact same problem and could not find the solution until i took my machine to my sewing sensei and i solved my tedious problem. It was actually not a tension problem at all but a threading problem. Make sure you have threaded your bobbin correctly and that when you pull on the bobbin thread that the bobbin turns the right way. (mine must spin anti clockwise to work)  Make sure that when you pull up the bobbin thread using the needle that it is not over the feed dogs connective bar but under it. A big problem when the thread gets caught around the bobbin case wheel is that the thread is looped around the feed dogs once and that causes the thread to get caught around the bobbin wheel. In conclusion, thread the bobbin correctly and read over your instruction book before spending the money to get it fixe in s shop.

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