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Anonymous Posted on Jan 26, 2010

My dishwasher was not getting the dishes clean, so i started taking the lower end apart to clean, got to a gray wheel looking object with a screw in the top which was recessed and still the wheel looking object will not come off, it will spin but will not come off, I need to finish taking it off because I dropped a screw down in the bottom area where the water settles.

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If there is still standing water in the bottom of the dishwasher, remove it with a wet vac then look for the missing screw. It might be in the vac.

If no luck, try using a good small stick magnet to retrieve the screw. These screws are usually stainless steel, but the alloy is in the low 300 series so they are still slightly magnetic.

If you pull the slinger/impeller, you may need to replace the pump/slinger mechanical seal, so proceed carefully.

Testimonial: "very good, i didn't relize that lower part would not come off, saved me some grief. Thanks"

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