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Purchased a york hydraulic primary chain tensioner for my 2005 HD vtwin and it came with no instructions. Believe I have it installed correctly but any particulars for adjustments I need to know about. Thanks.

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Once they're installed, they usually self adjust from what I've been told. It works hydraulically. As the spring pushes up on the bottom side of the primary, the sucks oil in to keep the tension on the chain.

I've heard from some that they have noticed a bit more noise from the primary due to the added tension on the primary chain. Personally, I guess I'm just "old school". It ain't too much trouble to check the chain tension every two or three thousand miles. But, then again, I work on the things for a hobby.

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Fill transmission

Through the plug you look through to check the primary chain tension. About a 2" opening near the top center of the primary cover. This is the same as all Sportsters.
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