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Haveing trouble syncing the sound with lips is there a trick to do this? also whats the best setting to get the best true surround sound by the way i have Rx-v465 with klipsch 300 home theater speakers.

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RX-V465 has auto-sync feature over HDMI. So if you have your DVD and TV connected over HDMI, receiver will communicate with your TV and set the delay automatically based on TV processing speed.
You can turn auto-sync on in Setup menu / Sound Setup / Lipsync / HDMI Auto.
Or if that doesn't work for you, you can set a value in milliseconds manually in the same submenu.

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How do i fix the Lip sync on our new TV?

lip sync is the combination of the two signal carrier frequencies being out of sync
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IF ALL WIRES ARE CORRECTLY BEEN SETUP OR INSTALLED THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO CONFIGURE THE SYSTEM TO WORK ON ALL SPEAKERS...

Before the setup of the speakers' channels
  • Press the SURR. button on the remote to select multichannel surround mode before adjusting the speaker settings.
  • In case of sound distortion, press and hold the SOUND button to select another transmission channel for the wireless rear speakers.
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  3. Press 060227073211_11232.jpg060227073221_11233.jpg to highlight { Speaker Setup Page }, then press 060227073234_11234.jpg.

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  4. Enter its submenu by pressing 060227073234_11234.jpg.
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Since it has been documented that lip-sync error - even when not consciously noticed - causes viewers to perceive the characters and story as "less believable" , many cinema enthusiasts use external delay boxes made by companies like Alchemy2, Felston, Primare, etc.to intercept the audio and delay it to match the video perfectly via remote control.

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Getting it "close" - perhaps within 30 or 40 ms - will allow most viewers to ignore it but the study done at Stanford showed the negative impact was still present.

The current theory to explain this is that our brains - even subconsciously - can't process the impossibility of sound before lip-movement and we look away from the lips to avoid the impossible and in doing this we form the same opinion of the characters as we have of people who don't make eye contact with us. Ironically "we" are the ones not making eye contact with the characters in order to avoid the impossibility of sound before lip-movement.

You can run your own test to prove this: Force yourself to focus intently on the lips and you will see lip-sync error you never noticed before. You were ignoring it because it was below your "threshold of recognition" and looking away could conceal it.

After the cable change and adjustment you didn't notice lip sync error because it was probably below that threshold but something ( a digital video effect in the broadcast possibly) boosted it above your threshold and you noticed it again. The only way to eliminate the negative impact is to look for the error and adjust it out.

Most AV receivers and some recent TV's offer a fixed audio delay to correct lip-sync error and that can usually get it close enough that most people won't consciously be bothered but masking the problem like that doesn't eliminate the negative impact on the characters and story.
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Anyone with a new Vizio E601i-A3 60" or 70" HDTV that is having audio "Lips out of sync problems" with a cable or satellite box.

On Comcast cable boxes (or others), here's what you need to do: FIND MENU for AUDIO or HDMI setup on CABLE BOX or Satellite Box.

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1. Turn on TV and have Cable box Turned OFF.

2. Press MENU on COMCAST REMOTE.

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4. Change setting from Auto to L-PCM. (Turn off cable box to exit)

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There is no way to do this in a controlled manner without re-mastering the disc, an unrealistic option.

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Please keep in mind that this only works with a stereophonic (not mono) source and is fairly subtle.

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Lip-sync error is a widespread problem caused when video is delayed and audio arrives too soon. Widespread enough that three different manufacturers make dedicated products to address it, in fact (see review link below for those three). It is present to some extent in essentially all broadcasts and DVD?s. If you have a recently acquired DLP, LCD or plasma display it may have added enough additional video delay to make it noticeable but lip-sync error comes from MANY sources starting at image capture and continuing through post production and broadcast or DVD encoding and it is cumulative. There is usually enough lip-sync error in broadcasts and DVD's to cause a negative impact on viewer perception (Research done at Stanford showed this.) Many people don't consciously notice it until it gets very large because it's such an unnatural phenomenon ( audio can't come before the action causing the sound in the real world) we apparently subconsciously avoid looking at the faces and seeing the lips move "after" the sound from them is heard. A study at Stanford proved this causes negative viewer perception even for those who don't notice it so this is something we all need to notice as you already have. For those reading this who haven't noticed it, take a close look at the LIPS - force yourself to overcome your natural avoidance mechanism that keeps you from looking at the lips - and you will see lip-sync error you never noticed before. I think you will be amazed that you could possibly not have noticed it before. You will be seeing what JC is seeing. I even see it now on CRT TV's and am amazed I never noticed it so it's very obvious some avoidance mechanism is at work. And back to JC?s solution: I'd recommend one of these digital audio delay units. That way you can correct for ALL cumulative lip-sync error no matter what its source might be. Any one of these units reviewed will correct it ALL. With any one of these units you can adjust for perfect lip-sync at the start of each DVD or broadcast and not disturb the image you are watching during that fine adjustment. I have had a Felston DD340 since 2004 (three generations earlier than the DD740 covered in the review) but it still has the most important feature of all these units from these three different manufacturers which is their "plus and minus" buttons on their remotes that allow you to tweak the delay while watching your material without upsetting the video your are watching. My av receiver has a built in delay of 80 ms which isn't even enough audio delay to offset the video delay my plasma display adds but even if it were it isn't practical to adjust it for the changes in lip-sync error from program to program and DVD to DVD since it overlays the screen with menus when making the delay adjustment. With my DD340 (and any of the units reviewed) all you have to do is press the plus or minus button until you get perfect sync. Here is the review I mentioned: [URL="http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=3011"]
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