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Posted on Jan 10, 2010

My 10 w7 has vocals and bass now my vocals sounds muffled what can i do to get rid of my vocals and keep my bass???

  • Frank Fulton
    Frank Fulton May 11, 2010

    What amp are you using to run the sub and what type of enclosure?

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You're going to need what's called in the audio world as a crossover. These can be as simple as a capacitor or inductor in series with the speaker, and can be as complex as you like. I'd advise using an inductor in front of the speaker, of around 8mH. This will leave bass intact, but reduce the vocals.

You can calculate your own crossovers at http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/crosscalc.asp

There's wiring diagrams to help you.

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