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Coleman Powermate 3000 surging

The engine surges high and low rpm. Will not run at a steady speed. Governor keeps moving and engine surges. This is with no load. I have checked fuel line and carburettor for blockages but still the same problem. Starts without any problem but won't stay at a steady idle. The surging is at a regular pattern and not surging erratically. Any ideas?

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Check your air filter to make sure it is clean, especially if the gen. has been run in dirty, dusty conditions. Make sure the gas tank vent is not clogged.

Also, pour some combustion cleaner into the carb. through the air intake to clean the carb. It sounds like it is starving for gas.

Hope this helps.
Rob

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