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Anonymous Posted on Sep 19, 2009

Tension and missed stitches

I'm have a huge problem with my tension and missing stitches when free motion quilting on a quilting frame. I don't have any issues free motion quilting doing the quilting by hand but as soon as I place the machine on my frame carriage and try to sew the quilt, I get huge loops on the underside of the quilt, and when moving the carriage and machine in a backwards motion, the top stitches don't interlock with the bottom ones at all

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It sounds like one of your clearances in the machine is off. When a machine skips stitches like yours is doing, it does so because the hook responsible for "catching" the thread from the needle is not close enough to the needle so it misses the loop of thread from the needle. If your machine was having a timing problem it wouldn't sew well on any fabric. A clearance problem shows up on certain fabrics at certain times. A few things you could do to try to compensate it would be to use a slightly larger needle and turn your top tension dial down to a lower setting. Move the machine a little slower on the frame or increase the speed of the machine. Either way a trip to your technician will be needed. Make sure you tell him to check the needle to hook clearance.

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