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Iris Fine Posted on Sep 29, 2019

BrotherXL2600i tension Just about everytime I change the bobbin, the tensions are screwed up. I move the dial up and down to no avail. I rethread the top thread, then the bobbin . I have even re-wound the bobbin again. THen, all of a sudden everything is okay for a short while until I have to change the bobbin again. I am NOT a novice sewer. I have been sewing for over 45 years, never a moment's trouble with my Kenmore machines. I have brought my Brother in for servicing several times, all seems fine until I have to change the bobbin. I ALWAYS use the same thread for top and bobbin, so it can't be thread incompatibility. Every once in a while there is no problem. Problems are the norm. The repair shop is an authorized Brother dealer with a fine reputation. He told me that the machine was basically a piece of junk. Everyone else who has this machine do not have the problems I do. Should I have sent it back to Brother? Help me fix the tension., please

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Questions Iris. 1. Are you using the correct bobbins for this machine? 2. Are you following the manuals directions exactly? 3. Before you thread (top) ur machine, are you releasing the thread tension by raising the tension lever? 4. When you wind your bobbin, are you following the threading diagram in the manual? 5. Have you broken off any thread in or near the tension disks? If so, tiny threads may be stuck between the two disks. Lastly, Part of the problem, quite frankly, is that these less expensive machines are finicky. And part of the problem is that most manuals are not detailed enough. Go over each of my questions, then get back with me.

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bargainbox

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  • Posted on May 23, 2008

SOURCE: WHITE Jeans Machine model 1475 thread tension problem

Ensure that all is clean and free of lint and jams, this is the most likely cause....now for tension troubleshooting .......

This solution is for tension problems...if you cannot form any sort of stitch, the issue is quite different, so please let me know if you need a different problem solved.....

It is quite long, but just work through each section in order.
The "knotting up" can reveal a lot. If you have loose threads on one side or the other, the tension on the opposite side will be the culprit.

QUICK SUMMARY FIRST:
Ensure sharp new needle,
Thread guides and Bobbin are Clean & Clear of lint
Set Top Tesion to 4 ....then....
Balance Bobbin to suit.

TOP THREAD TENSION:
If the looping threads are on the underside as you sew, it is the top tension. Top tension ought to be between 4 & 6 (this variation to allow for the different weights of fabric in your
projects).

IS YOUR NEEDLE SHARP ?
If you are using a needle that has seen quite a deal of work, or you suspect it may be blunt, change it for a new one !

TOP TENSION & GUIDES:
Make sure that when you thread the machine the presser foot is up so the thread goes between the discs and not to one side, top tension between 4 and 6, and that you have threaded through all the guides, including the last one, usually on the needle arm, just above the needle clamp.

It may be there is lint trapped between the discs, this will keep them slightly apart and reduce the actual tension, sometimes dramatically.

If tensions appear correct, and the thread is definitely in the channel between the discs, but still too loose and looping, try raising presser foot and remove your thread.

Now, with a 2" (50mm) wide strip piece of fabric 8 - 10" (20 - 25cm) moistened with methylated or denatured spirit, gently insert the fabric strip and clean between the discs with
a see saw / to and fro action.

In the worst cases, gentle use of a needle to pick & remove the jam may be necessary, but be very gentle and make sure the tension is set at Zero and the presser foot is raised, (to
disengage tension plates).... do not gouge or score the plates, they need a polished surface to work correctly.

BOBBIN TENSION:
Far less common, but if the loose threads are on the top, it is bobbin tension that is loose, it too may have lint in the spring and be giving a "false" tension.

I would not recommend fiddling with bobbin tension without good reason, it may end up with missing small screws and spring pieces, however, you can take the needle plate off to clean
the hook race area (where bobbin case sits)

...this is just good housekeeping, my wife does this every time she replaces the bobbin....

just take it out and clean the bobbin case and the fixed metal hook race with a small brush to remove lint. If there is a significant amount of lint, use a vacuum and small brush to get the worst.

Then wipe all this area with a cloth or cotton bud (Q tip) moistened (not soaked) with methylated spirit, especially if there appears to be fine dirty deposits....oil and lint combine to conspire against you.

If it seems likely that you ......really ....do .....actually .....need .....to adjust the bobbin case, first check there is no lint trapped in the metal spring where the thread is tensioned.

TOP LOADER:
Drop-in Bobbin case will look similar to this image with the tension screw in the middle of the metalwork....

4c76dc1.jpg ...the other screw at one end is holding it all together, so beware....it is not a tragedy to undo the whole lot and clean it, but very gingerly and lay the bits out in sequence and orientation, or you risk tearing your hair out !

FRONT LOADER:
....this is a bobbin case from a front loading machine and works in a very similar fashion to the top loader with drop in bobbin, again, if you dismantle it, take care so you can put it all
back properly.
165ca5c.jpg FINISHING UP
GETTING THE BALANCE RIGHT:
When you are certain there's no trapped lint in top tension or bobbin, set the top tension to 4 and the bobbin tension to a point where you just begin to feel resistance.

Try using good quality thread of contrasting colours so you can more easily spot the changes.

Set your zigzag to one width less than maximum (eg. 5 of 6 ...or... 4 of 5 etc) and sew a sample for a few inches and check the result.... adjust the bobbin tension screw very little at
a time, perhaps 1/16 of a turn.

You may find you are playing with this balance for some little while and if you are putting the needleplate on and off each time begin to think it cannot be correct to do this.....BUT....it is,
and eventually, you do get a "feel" for the correct tension and then it happens quite quickly.....as a user you won't be doing it very often unless there is lint built up (or are there small hands at work around the house !?!?!)

OTHER ISSUES:
If you live near the ocean as we do, salt air can play havoc with metalwork inside and out, so to help minimise this, keep a few small packets of dessicant (silica gel) in your machine
case....no case ? then make some sort of cover !

Same applies in any damp or humid environment, keep your machine dry and dust free.

Budget for a proper full service every couple of years (more often if heavily used) and if you don't use your machine for a few years, be aware that old oil will dry out and combining with
dust and form a "clag" like glue (another reason for some sort of cover, even a teatowel !)

FINALLY, A WORD ON THREAD:
If it is worth spending the time, energy and money on making something that you would like to give lasting enjoyment......use quality thread, .......it may seem to cost a little more at the
time, but the results, ease of use and added longevity will be worth the extra, and as a bonus, your tension troubles may be fewer and further between, because there is a more consistant diameter with good thread, and less compensating to be done by your tension plates and less thread breaks !

If you want any more help with this, just post back here, or, drop a line through the "Contact Us" page at www.bargainbox.com.au

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Kelley Buchanan

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  • Posted on Apr 19, 2009

SOURCE: thread bunches up under the fabric

For normal everyday fabric, tension should be 3-5.
If it is looping on the bottom, the problem is the threading of the machine. If it loops on the top then the problem is with the bobbin.

Anonymous

  • 1116 Answers
  • Posted on Mar 10, 2010

SOURCE: Needle thread looping underneath, threads not interlocking at all

If the machine is now threaded, lift the presser foot.

Now, pull about 10" of thread through the needle.

The next time you thread the machine, lift the presser foot first.

When the presser foot is up, the tension control opens and allows the thread to "seat" into the control, then when the foot is down the control closes to the indicated setting.

When threading the machine with the foot is down, thread does not enter the tension control and when you start to sew, there is no tension on the thread.

No tension = loosey, goosey, loopy stitches underneath.

Because the lack of tension on the top thread, the bobbin thread cannot lock a proper stitch.

Anonymous

  • 59 Answers
  • Posted on Mar 30, 2010

SOURCE: BROTHER INOVIS D 1500, CANNOT REGULATE BOBBIN

the problem is your bobbin, a little lossen it so that the thread easy goes up. and adjust your tension.

ken dourof

  • 980 Answers
  • Posted on Jun 26, 2010

SOURCE: Sewing machine not stitching

Sounds like you need to retime the machine, if you email me I can attach instructions [email protected]

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My top thread keeps getting wound up in huge knot in the bobbin area

Top thread nesting on bottom side is likely either top thread has escaped tension plates or tension too low. Try increasing tension.

You can test top thread tension by setting tension at 2, then with foot up (zero tension) make long steady pull of top thread. Then move foot down and make another pull of top thread. There should be na notable difference. If no change in tension when foot down, rethread top.

Top thread tension with foot down should be similar to bottom thread (bobbin) tension.

Be sure it is top thread. Use a different color top vs bottom color to know for sure. If you find it is bottom thread, likely cause is thread escaped bobbin case tension spring, reload bobbin.

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Brother XR 3240. Tension issues. Top thread is ok, the bottom thread is too tight. Per manual, I need to loosen the top tension, (dial to lower #) but I go all the way to 0 & still have same issue.

indications of a bobbin tension incorrect is the bottom thread lies flat under the bottom material
it seldom needs adjusting but if you have to the spring plate that you pull the thread under as you put the bobbin back in the holder is where you adjust it
there is a small screw that holds that plate on so the slightest movement of the screw makes a lot of difference of the thread tension
all thread tension problems relate to the needle thread tension and if you have it set to 0 then the thread will be bunching up under the material
you don't say what the issues are but pounds to peanuts , it will be the top tension that is the problem
It will be correct when you are threading the needle , you pull the thread out first before threading and there is a resistance to pulling the thread
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I have a Seammaster machine Model # 6950. I bought it with now book. How do I adjust the tension on the bobbin?

Here are some instructions regarding tension adjustment. However, before you try changing the bobbin tension, I suspect that it is the top thread creating the mess of thread. REMOVE the top thread from the machine, ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot, and rethread from the beginning.

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There are some manuals available for purchase for your machine. Search for Simplicity Seammaster 6950.
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Stitches are gathering up and blocking the bottom plate - how can I stop this?

It is almost for sure tension adjustment.
1. Because there is higher tension on the bobbin you need to check it so it is allowing the thread to move with an adjustment equal to the top tension (at four).
2. Rethread the top while the pressure foot is up. The thread should move freely. Don't thread needle yet.
3. Set tension to four. Now, put pressure foot down. Pull on thread. Do you get a tug? You may want to move your adjustment just to give yourself an idea of how it changes. It should change while you adjust. Anyway, four is your best adjustment usually.
4. The idea is to equal the bobbin tension and the top tension. This must be correct. On yours you had a much higher tension on the bobbin. This caused the top thread to be gobbled up. Remember how important it is to equal the top and bottom tensions.
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Why can't thread tension be adjusted?

Upper thread breakage is usually caused by incorrect threading, the tension being too tight, or the thread is wrapped around the spool pin or catching somewhere in the thread path.

Remove the thread completely from the machine.

Install a brand new needle making sure it is compatible with the thread and fabric.
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RAISE the presser foot and rethread the machine making sure it follows the correct thread path (consult the owner's manual). Verify that the bobbin is spinning the right direction in the bobbin case and the bobbin case is properly threaded.

Set the upper tension somewhere around the midway point between high & low numbers.

Retest.

If problems persist, there may be debris buildup stuck in the tension disk. Remove the thread. RAISE the presser foot, set the tension all the way to zero. Dampen a length of pearl cotton with rubbing alcohol and gently pull the pearl cotton DOWN through the tension disk a couple of times. Rethread with regular sewing thread, reset the tension to the midway point and retest.

If cleaning the tension disk does not help, then it is possible the tension disk is malfunctioning or broken. Take it for service.

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How do I fix the bottom bobbin thread

THE BOTTOM AND TOP THREADS ARE IN A TUG OF WAR. WHEN THE TOP IS TOO LOOSE THE BOBBIN WILL BE PULLING HARDER THAN THE TOP THREAD SO A GREAT DEAL MORE THREAD WILL END UP ON THE BOTTOM. TO CORRECT THIS YOU INCREASE THE TOP THREAD TENSION. IF THE TOP THREAD IS PULLING HARDER THAN THE BOTTOM THEN A GREAT DEAL MORE BOBBIN THREAD WILL END UP ON THE TOP. TO CORRECT THIS YOU WOULD LOWER THE TENSION ON TOP.
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Tension of pe770

Besides the other advice here, check your bobbin case. At first I didn't get my thread hooked into the bobbin case properly and had problems that looked like the bobbin tension was not adjusted properly. I have to take the case out, put in the bobbin to make sure it's caught properly and then put it back into the machine. This is what worked for me.
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I have a Singer

Which stitch are you using?

To check thread tension for straight stitches, use different colors of thread in your top thread and bobbin. If the top thread shows on the bottom of the fabric, turn the dial counter-clockwise (towards a lower number). If the bottom thread shows on the top, turn the dial clockwise. Do not adjust the tension too much (for example, go from 2 to 2.5 if increasing the tension) at a time; test another set of stitches. Alternatively, you can adjust the bobbin tension in the reverse directions. However, it's very easy to damage the set screw in the bobbin case so do this as a last resort. Since this is a vertical bobbin case, put the bobbin in and hold onto the thread. If the thread moves when you dangle the bobbin case, tighten the screw. Loosen the screw if the thread doesn't pull out of the bobbin when you hold the unit.

For zig-zag decorative stitches lower the tension until the puckering stops. Usually the top thread will show on the bottom of the fabric.

If the tension is not changing when you turn the dial, make sure that the presser foot is down. The sewing machine may need repair. The tension mechanism depends on a spring and that can break. See the Singer site for a parts breakdown and contact your Singer dealer for the parts.

If the top and bottom fabric are not moving at the same rate, you can get a different type of puckering. You may want to get an even feed foot if there are several layers of fabric.

The manual for the 3116 is available from Singer: http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/438_3116.pdf .

I hope this helps.

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Everytime i start the machine, it will sew great then, i have 2 or 3 strings from the bobbin and usually ends up locked up

Sounds like the bobbin thread is not under tension correctly or is in the wrong way around.

Remove the bobbin case and bobbin from machine and check that the thread is clipped in under the tension spring. Then do the "Dangle" test. If you suspend the bobbin case by holding the thread end and the case dangles in the air, it should "stay" in position, i.e. not drop down the thread releasing more thread. But if you gently tug the case you should be able to pull it down releasing thread without applying significant pressure. Adjust the tension on your bobbin case by turning the tension screw just one "quarter turn" each time until you get the tension set correctly so you can "dangle" it.

Then place back into machine and rethread the top.

Also good practice to always hold both top and bottom threads at the back of the needle plate when you start stitching until the seam has been started.
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My bobbin thread keeps getting tangled and breaking everytime I try and sew....I have tried rethreading the bobbin, taking everything apart and cleaning out the dust and debris, I have adjusted the thread...

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