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Posted on Aug 21, 2009
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American Standard Cadet 3 - bowl water slowly drains

I have the same problem but have the old float that surrounds the fill valve. I don't believe there is a way to extend the tube on the one i have, but it is very short. The tank water stays normal but the bowl level water slowly drains.

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  • matt_faber Aug 21, 2009

    I have the Cadet 3 toilet and the bowl water slowly drains after flushing. the tank water stays the same, but the bowl slowly drains. the answer to the other was if you have the built in float there is a way to extend the refill tube to raise the tank water level but the cadet 3 toilet i have has the float on the fill valve and i don't believe there is a way to extend the refill tube

  • matt_faber Aug 21, 2009

    here was the answer to the original persons problem - The newer types have the float either built in, or the float surrounds the fill valve. The one that surrounds the fill valve looks like a very fat donut and is very similar to the older float arm type, just more compact. The water level is set by adjusting the linkage between the float and the water valve at the top of the water control valve.
    The newer newer type has all of the floating mechanism built in. But cleverly, there is an external adjustment for raising and lowering the water level. On the side of the tube, there are slots and raised dots on the lower tube. The upper tube has slots on the inside of it. There is a white locking tab between the two tubes. Here's how this one works: (Turn your water off first for adjusting this type). The tube is in two parts, an upper and lower tube. They are held in place by the locking tab, and by the slots cast into the two tubes (they intermesh) To adjust this type, you have to raise the lower portion of the locking tab to raise it off of the locking dots, and than revove it. Then, you push down slightly and twist the upper section to unlock it. Set the level higher or lower, twist the two parts back together, and reinsert the locking tab. The aim is to set the water level at the level mark on the tank. This type can be tricky; you'd do best to turn the water off to adjust this type, and turn it back on once you have locked it back in place.
    Best regards, W/D The problem is that the water in the bowl slowly drains after flushing. i have the one that has float on the fill valve, not the built in. i don't believe mine has the extendable refill tube.

  • matt_faber Aug 22, 2009

    the water in the tank stays at the same level

  • matt_faber Aug 22, 2009

    that sounds about the same as i have heard before. i will try and take the toilet off and see.

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Another thought I had is that the vent pipe for the toilet drain could be clogged. This is kind of a long shot, but it's conceivable that a clogged vent pipe could be creating a siphon on the toilet bowl and draining it. To test this theory, you can run water from a garden hose down through the vent pipe on the roof above the bathroom. If this is the problem, it will save pulling the commode out. Please let me know if this stops the bowl's draining down. thanks... Charlie

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Wow! This is a lot of dialog over a toilet. I think I'm finally getting it. The symptom is: "the toilet bowl loses water between flushes" -- is this correct? I looked at this unit on the internet and read some reviews. It doesn't seem to be anything unusual or innovative. Therefore, I assume it's just like any other toilet in most respects -- which means the water level in the tank and the water level in the bowl are independent of each other (once the flush has completed). The water level in the bowl is determined by the toilet p-trap which is molded into the bottom of the toilet. The toilet bowl water flows out the p-trap when it reaches the level of the top of the p-trap -- it simply overruns out the top of the bowl's p-trap. If the toilet bowl is losing water, then there must be a leak in the bowl which is running into the floor toilet drain instead of onto the floor. Am I missing something? Charlie

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    Could you clarify this, please: "the tank water stays the same" Charlie

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    I don't see the post you are referencing as the same problem. Could you describe the problem again? thanks... Charlie

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Ok, I read through all the web sites and solutions for the Cadet3 bowl loosing all the water after 3-5 minutes of being flushed. After installing my own, I figured I didn't get a good seal with the wax ring, I must have misaligned it. So, I went out and bought a new wax ring, picked up the toilet, cleaned everything up and made absolutely sure it was seated right. No Joy, same thing the toilet bowl would loose all of it's water regardless of the tank adjustements. My vents were not clogged. so, about the time I am ready to take the toilet back I tried flushing one more time and water wouldn't go down so I plunged it several times and what ya know the toilet works normally now and retains water at the right level. While I am no expert, it appears to me that since there wasn't anything ever put in the toilet except for 2 small pieces of toilet paper that maybe part of the huge wax ring that came with it partially clogged the toilet causing a siphening effect? How else would the water level seep way down below the bottom of the top portion of the trap built into the toilet bowl (unless the toliet was defective)? So, it may not be your prroblem but before replacing the toilet, I would recommend a long hearty plung if your toilet bowl won't hold it's water.

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    ok, I read through all the web sites and solutions for the Cadet3 bowl loosing all the water after 3-5 minutes of being flushed. After installing my own, I figured I didn't get a good seal with the wax ring, I must have misaligned it. So, I went out and bought a new wax ring, picked up the toilet, cleaned everything up and made absolutely sure it was seated right. No Joy, same thing the toilet bowl would loose all of it's water regardless of the tank adjustements. My vents were not clogged. so, about the time I am ready to take the toilet back I tried flushing one more time and water wouldn't go down so I plunged it several times and what ya know the toilet works normally now and retains water at the right level. While I am no expert, it appears to me that since there wasn't anything ever put in the toilet except for 2 small pieces of toilet paper that maybe part of the huge wax ring that came with it partially clogged the toilet causing a siphening effect? How else would the water level seep way down below the bottom of the top portion of the trap built into the toilet bowl (unless the toliet was defective)? So, it may not be your prroblem but before replacing the toilet, I would recommend a long hearty plung if your toilet bowl won't hold it's water.

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If your house is old then you may have some grit in the new supply pipe. I would take the supply tube off and chec to seeif there are flakes of rust causing this fill valve to act funny like the way you described.

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Try putting some food coloring in it to see if it's leaking anywhere. the coloring will help you identify where it's leaking

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I have a new American Standard Cadet 3 that was just installed. After flushing, the water fills into the bowl. However, after several minutes, the water in the bowl slowly drains away and is nearly gone....

I would check the drain line from that toilet to see if it is partially blocked and is allowing a vacumn to be drawn when another fixture drains into this line. Check the hold down bolts to floor to make sure you are getting a good seal with the wax ring. The main thing that I would suspect is that you have a toilet that was defective when it was made.Good luck and thank you.
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I have a new American Standard Cadet 3 that was just installed. After flushing, the water fills into the bowl. However, after several minutes, the water in the bowl slowly drains away and is nearly gone....

Sorry for problem with new toilet.
You say water is leaking out of the bowl?

Toilets have 2 parts:
1) Tank: where water is stored for the flush and is sealed with a flapper.
2) Bowl: where water flushes down.

a) If tank is leaking water, then flapper is suspect. Replace flapper and see if that works.
Lift up flapper and run finger around rim to see if there is a rough spot that would indicate flush valve is defective, and needs replacement.
See typical flush valve

b) If bowl is leaking, that is very unusual and would indicate a crack in the porcelain.

If installer sold you the toilet, it is his responsibility to make good on product.
All products are guarantee against workmanship flaws.
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I have an American Standard cadet 3 that was just installed. After flushing, the water fills into the bowl. However, after several minutes, the water in the bowl is nearly gone. The flapper appears to be...

As long as the water in the bowl dosent go below the bottom rim your ok there is a trap that the water has to seal that all it needs look at the side of your toilet you will see the trap water saver
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My Cadet 3 toilet worked fine for a year. A plumber fixed a leak at the intake line. Since he left the bowl does not fill with enough water. This causes water to splash when I flush. The flapper has a...

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This is diagram of a typical toilet tank setup if the refill tube is not putting water into the flush valve as pictured the toilet will do what you have described.
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After flushing, water level in bowl fills and then slowly drops.

Check to be sure small tube is flowing inside the ovefow tube. This is the water that flushes the rim holes, and refills the bowl. If you don't have flow clean or replace the float valve.
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Water disappears to below the bowl inlet and stop.

adjust the float up to make water deeper....make sure no obstructions around the flapper....flapper needs to rest tight to bottom of inside the tank..flapper is the rubber peice that lifts when you push handle
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I BELIEVE IAM HAVING SOME TYPE OF VACUME ISSUE WITH TOILET

The water in the tank is not filling to the water line, thereby not providing enough water to flush properly. Adjust the float so that the tank fills to the water line
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Water shut off sticks open

Make sure that the float in not touching the side of the bowl. You may oil the hinge on the float. Lastly you may turn off the water , open the valve and see if any of the internal parts are swollen or enlarged interfering with the final rising of the float, and closing of the valve.
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