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Bought replacement goodman package HP with 20kw heater element. Old HP had 1 breaker and 6g wire to the service panel.new one has 2 breakers. will I need run 2nd run to service panel

Goodman HKP-20C 2 45amp breakers. old one was 20 kw with 1 60 amp breaker. are there any alternative wiring options rather than long run such as second 6g wire from cutout to second breaker.

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You need a Goodman SPW-01 Single Point wiring kit.
You can find them on alpinehomeair.com .
Description as follows:
The SPW-01 single point kit creates one power supply for heater kits with two circuit breakers. It is compatible with heater kits HKR-15C, HKR-20C, and HKR-21C when installed in a single-piece Goodman brand air handler or modular blower. Use this kit when you have a single 240 Volt line powering your equipment.
Included in the Goodman SPW-01 Box:

  • 1 Power Block
  • 1 Mounting Bracket
  • 4 Wires
  • 2 #6 Pan Head Screws
  • 2 #10 Self-drilling Screws
  • 1 Power Block Cover

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Anonymous

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SOURCE: Washer Tripping 20 Amp Breaker

probably a faulty heater.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 12, 2008

SOURCE: electric hot water heater 40 gallon ge

Typical H2O heater with 4500 watt elements should draw around 18 amps. Check to make sure the connections for the wires at the breaker are tight, loose connections will cause the breaker to heat up. If all of this is good and the breaker is still heating up, it is time for a new breaker.

muttandjeff

Allen Neal

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  • Posted on Feb 07, 2009

SOURCE: Main breaker tripping

replacing the main is a possibility and i saw someone suggestion to ck load on each leg of power , also a good idea but one thing i have also seen do this is a loose or corroded connection in the meter base or disconnect which causes a process called electrolysis that is a flaking away of the conductor itself in the meter base or disconnect feeding the panel main breaker and causing heat build up internal to breaker and making it trip but if you replace the main that is the time to check all these connection and it would not hurt to apply a little no lock or some other brand of oxidation inhibitor

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 16, 2009

SOURCE: Properly installed electric baseboard heater won't work.

I am an electrician. You must measure the voltage across the black and red wires. Measuring each wire to the neutral will not cut it. If both your red and black wire are on the same phase the heater will not work.

To double check your wiring, measure the voltage across the two screws feeding your subpanel, they should be 240v or 208v depending on your power company. Then do the same at the breaker feeding your thermostat. Again it should read 240v.

If you have no potential across the screws it is possible that you installed an incorrect breaker. Not all breakers with two screws on them are 240v breakers. There is what is called a twin or split breaker that has two screws that are on the same phase. These are for wiring two 110v circuits, when you run out of spaces in the panel.

Double check everything. This is a relatively easy circuit to wire, even for homeowners. If the heater does not work them something is wrong so do not leave the circuit energized.

darjr

Darial Jr Lasaria

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  • Posted on Jun 01, 2009

SOURCE: wiring installation for ss5l5 IR 5hp 60 gallon compressor

A #10AWG wire can be use and 40Amp breaker can be use also. Your 5hp/230V/1/60hz motor amp is 30A.

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1) Test elements, and if elements are good, then replace both thermostats.
Takes about 20 minutes. Power is off.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

2) Label on side of water heater shows volts and watts.
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Move water heater wires to different same-size breaker.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html

3) Open the links and do the work, or call plumber to do work, or call manufacturer for warranty coverage.
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1) Amps can go either way

2) Breakers trip when heat exceeds certain level. Heat is caused by amps.

3) You want to add a subpanel in garage.
I do not know the code in your area for installing a subpanel.
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Remember, wires going into main breaker cannot be turned off without pulling meter.
Some areas require license to pull meter.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-circuit-breaker.html

4) To work around license and meter-pull, simply replace a 240V breaker in main panel with your new 60 amp breaker.
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New subpanel can accommodate two new 240V breakers and one new 120 Breaker
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-a-subpanel.html

5) 6 gauge wire is correct for 60 amp breaker.

6) I'm not sure what you mean by the box rails?

7) Do you need more amperage on main service?
This means adding a larger service panel with 150 Watt or 200 Watt main breaker.
Some areas require service upgrade when remodeling or adding circuits.

8) How to figure total amp draw at your house.
Add up total watts being used.
For example you have 1/2 Hp motor
754 watts per Hp
1/2 Hp = 377Watts
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Amps = Watts divided by Volts.
377 Watts divided by 240Volts = 1.57 amps (plus a bit more amperage when motor starts)
40 watt light bulb divided by 120Volts = .33 amps
Double oven has label located inside door that shows upper and lower wattage.
Dishwasher, dryer, big screen TV, satellite receiver all have labels that show wattage.
Water heater has label that shows wattage of each element.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Figure-Volts-Amps-Watts-for-water-heater.html
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You have electric water heater.
You replaced elements and thermostats but heater still won't work.
And tank was completely full of water, and water was running out of a faucet before turning power ON.
If elements are not fully immersed in water, they will instantly burn out.
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2) Click circuit breaker all the way one direction and then back the other direction to make sure breaker is latched.

3) If tank has 2 elements, then it is 240volt.
If 1 leg of 240Volt circuit is not working, then 240V appliance will not work.
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Buy cheap multimeter from Home Center and set dial to 240-250-277VAC
Tape tester leads to woods sticks to keep hands away from power.
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4) Open connection point where wire connects to heater.
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5) Mark water heater breaker.
Turn off all breakers except water heater breaker and main breaker. (and breaker to light fixture where box is located)
Do not hold or touch or lean against anything metal.
Stand on dry boards and wear dry clothes.
If main breaker is OFF, the big wires that connect to main breaker are still HOT.

Remove box cover.
240Volt breaker has 2 wires connected with screws.
Test across both screws for 240Volt.
See if wires are loose.
If there is no reading, then breaker is not working on one leg.
To double check, move water heater wires to another same-size 240V breaker and then put ear against water heater to listen for bubbly-fizzing sound.

6) If you are getting 240 to water heater, then wire inside tank could be loose.
Do 30 minute troubleshoot:
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