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Installing 7 day timer only one set of wires where old timer was, where does red wire go.

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If your switch box only has 2 wires, and no Neutral wire, then you need battery-operated Intermatic timer as shown on following link
http://waterheatertimer.org/Programmable.html#st01

If there are 2 or more white wires connected together and pushed in back of box, then correct wiring instructions appear on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-timers.html

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SOURCE: i am installing honywell thermostat rth111/rth221

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 25, 2010

SOURCE: I bought a Utilitech 7 day digital in wall timer,

HI .. if the switch has only a black and white wire attached, and there are no other wires in the wall box, then you cannot use this timer switch. You need to return it and get a timer that does not use a neutral connection. The wires you have are a switch leg from the light and there is a white wire but it is not a neutral.
If there are other wires in that wall box , tell me and we can chat more about how to remedy this .

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 01, 2010

SOURCE: Help with Woods 59018/59028 7 day digital timer

The usual connection for this type timer is the house black power to the timer black, the house white power to the timer white and the , the light black wire to the red timer wire.
If you only have two wires, one black and one white, at the switch location, then you cannot use this style timer , as it needs a neutral. You should return this timer and get one that does not require a neutral connection.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Sep 26, 2010

SOURCE: GE digital timer. Instructions say to: 1)

Find the Hot wire:
Your switch has 2 wires. One of these wires is Hot, and one goes to load. Disconnect wires from switch. Turn on power. Do not stand on wet surface. Test each wire to bare copper wire. When tester lights up, that is Hot wire. The other wire goes to load.

Connect wires:
Hot wire goes to Black timer wire
Wire to load goes to Red timer wire
White wire connects to white wires that are twisted together
Bare copper wire connects to Green wire from timer

How to connect white wire to white wires that are twisted together.
a) Strip white timer wire so you have 1-1/2 " of bare wire. Stranded wire will wrap around other wires easily.
b) Remove wire nut. DO NOT UNTWIST wires.
c) Hold all whites together so bare copper lines up. Wrap stranded copper around the twisted wire.
d) Replace wire nut, or use larger wire nut. Twist real tight. Do not use tape. You can solder the connection.
e) When done, pull on white time wire to make sure it is held tight. Push whites back into box.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Oct 24, 2010

SOURCE: I bought Utilitech #0141224 7

If your box contains 2 and only 2 wires, then the Utilitec timer will not work.
You need the Intermatic ST01C or EJ500 timers that operate with a battery.

I have tested the Intermatic and Utilitec timers:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Program-wire-Utilitec-0141224.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/ST01C-program.html#wire
Do not connect white and red wires together on any timer, but thank you for solving the problem why lights blink when connecting timers.

Now lets look at your wires.
Scrape paint off the wires so you can identify white and black.
According to your information, the black wire inside box will connect to timer-black wire.
The red wire always goes to Load (your light, fan, motor)
The white wire is necessary to complete a circuit so the clock inside timer will operate.
The timer has a clock just like your alarm clock, and it needs to connect back to neutral busbar in breaker box.
This is why the battery-operated timers will work with two wires, the clock runs on battery.
The Utilitec timer-white wire is the wire that goes to Neutral
The timer-white wire is supposed to connect to the other white wires that are twisted together and covered with a wire nut ... but some boxes do not have this neutral wire
To work-around, the timer-white wire can also connect to a bare ground wire.
The bare ground wire also connects to Neutral busbar in breaker box

If you do not have a neutral or ground wire as described above, then you need the battery-powered ST01C or EJ500 Intermatic timers.
See if you can pull some more of the wire into your box ... there might be a ground wire that was cut off and pulling more wire might reveal a ground wire. This will salvage the project.
Aplus is one of many places that sell the Intermatic timer
http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/timer.htm

For more about electric wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/B220C.html

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59018 7-day timer has limited 1 year warranty, and appears to be made by Tork
Timer is for 120Volt single-pole only.
Rated for 1000 watt tungsten, 8A ballast, 1/4 HP
Push reset button with toothpick > not necessary to press-and-hold other button to accomplish reset.
After reset, 12:00 am Monday should display.
Programs are deleted. Reprogram timer.

To check, change and delete specific programming, press PROG key until selected program displays, and then set new programming >>> or press-and-hold MODE button and press PROG button again to delete selected program.

Timer has non-replaceable 30-day carryover battery and does not lose programming after power outage, and will retain programs until battery is depleted.

Review wiring:
Hot to timer black.
Neutral to timer white.
Load to timer red.
Ground to timer green.

Lights will blink if timer red and timer white are connected to load together.
Timer will not function if timer black and red wires are reversed. Display will not show.

http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59028
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I have the Woods 59018 In-Wall 7-Day Digital Timer, and am having trouble installing it. I am replacing an IntermaticModel EJ251 timer that only connects using two black wires in the junction box (as...

Open following link to identify timer, read wiring instructions, and download on-line manual:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Woods-timers-and-manuals.html#59028

How to wire timer
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 wires. Take switch wires and connect to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground.
5) Turn on electricity, and push timer door which is also the ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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I have a ground and white wires and a black wire... which do I hook to what... can I put green ground, and black with black, but can't i put my red and white on the white? For 7-Day Digital in-wall timer...

Utilitec 7-day timer will only replace single-pole switch.
Single pole switch has two brass screws and a ground screw.

Links below show wiring for both Utilitec 7-day timers
http://waterheatertimer.org/Program-wire-Utilitec-0192773.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Program-wire-Utilitec-0141224.html
If this is not your timer, then add a comment and specifically state which timer you have and which wires came off which screw on old switch.

The best way to start is to identify exactly which wires came off old switch.
How to wire
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 insulated wires. Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.
5) Turn on electricity, and push ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.

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You are replacing a single pole switch that controls a light or several lights.
There is not a second switch that controls same lights.

The switch has 3 wires.
Generally there are two insulated wires and a bare ground wire.
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Here's what to do:
I have tested these timers for wiring and programming.
Get started and instructions will make sense as you go.
Turn off circuit beaker to switch.
Remove old switch.

1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire using one of the yellow wire nuts included with timer. Put two wires together so they are even at ends. Put wire nut over wire ends. Rotate wire nut clockwise between fingers until very tight.

2) Switch has 2 insulated wires. Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire using two more yellow wire nuts. Choose either one for now. You may have to reverse these two wires in a minute.

3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Remove the wire nut, but do not untwist the white wires. Connect timer-white to these wires. Then put original wire nut back over white wires.

4) If electric box does not have white wires described in step 3, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.

5) Turn on electricity, and push ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires from step 2.

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Programmable.html
The link above will help you identify your timer.

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If I understand correctly, the old timer has 2 wires. One of these wires is the Hot wire ... and that wire will connect to GE timer black wire.
The other wire from old timer goes to Load ... and that wire will go to GE timer red wire.

Instructions on a lot of these timers say, it timer doesn't work, then reverse the two wires described above ... this is because timer only works when Timer black connects to Hot.

You can also turn on power and test each wire that came off old switch to bare ground wire. When tester lights up, that is Hot wire.

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