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Anonymous Posted on Jun 25, 2018

I have a Roland HP 236 digital piano, and at random times the sustain pedal sticks, and will sustain even with your foot off the pedal. How can this be resolved?

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See if you can determine where and get to the actual sticky spot. Often I have found that things like this are easy to clean or lubricate as soon as you see the actual place that is rubbing... Looks like it may be tricky to see the lever, but a mirror may help. clean it (even with "goof-off" or something) Then a little wd-40 (on a q-tip if you don't want to make a mess) or mineral oil will probably help. Good Luck

  • Anonymous Jun 25, 2018

    Thank you for a quick response. Since the pedals are enclosed around the pedal, would I take the covering off to determine where it is sticking?

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    T Wolgamuth Jun 25, 2018

    Sometimes it is a bit of a hunt to figure out how, takes some detective work and I have no specific guidance about this pedals workings, but I always figure somebody put it together, it probably comes apart for service or repair... be gentle and patient and good luck.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2009

SOURCE: Roland DP-2 pedal not functioning correctly.

There are two types of damper pedal switches, on that is closed until you press it, and one that closes when your press it. It sounds like your Casio is expecting one type and your Roland pedal is the other type. A quick way to test this is to plug a guitar cable into the Casio pedal input and see if the keyboard sustains. If it does, then your Casio requires an "normally closed" switch.

Some pedals have a small switch near the cord or even on the bottom of the pedal that will reverse the switching operation (BOSS pedals, a division of Roland, have this feature). If you can find that, then change the switch position and you should be OK.

If not, and you feel like digging into your pedal, you could take the bottom off of the pedal and check out the switch itself. Many pedals use a switch that can be used either way. The clue will be on the switch itself. If there is an extra tab on the switch that is unused, then switch the wire that is furthest away from that tab to that tab. This will probably involve soldering, but it is nearly impossible to damage anything.
If moving the wire that is furthest away does not do anything, then try putting that wire back and switching the other one.

If your pedal does NOT have an extra tab, you're SOL, unless you want to buy a replacement switch (unsure of make). If this is the case, you are probably better off getting a different damper pedal - preferably one that is marketed as "universal"

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  • Posted on Sep 22, 2009

SOURCE: What type of sustain pedal Roland EP-90 digital

CLOSED is typical for Roland pianos when at rest. (open to sustain).

Note that the jack PROBABLY has a grounding contact so when no pedal is used/plugged in, the jack is shorted at the piano.

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Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Oct 06, 2009

SOURCE: I have a Roland HP 2e digital piano - Foot pedal problem

The ROLAND pianos USUALLY require that you use a normally closed sustain pedal.

MANY pedals are the opposite and close when pressed. SOMETIMES you can open the pedal and reverse the way the switch works.

Fred Yearian

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  • Posted on Dec 24, 2010

SOURCE: hi, i purchased yamaha fc15 sustain

The answer is NO... Roland uses the opposite sense switches on foot pedals... They use NIRMALLY CLOSED and your Yamaha is a NORMALLY OPEN switch.

SOMETIMES you can open these pedals and find that the pedal has the opposite sense switch available and you only have to unsolder and move one wire to make it a NORMALLY CLOSED pedal.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 28, 2011

SOURCE: When I plug the pedal in and play, the music is

1.Make sure you are plugged in to DAMPER (not FC1 or FC2) 2. Check to see if the notes STOP sustaining when you PRESS the pedal. If that is the case, first try turning off the Roland with the pedal plugged in and restarting with the pedal pressed down. 3. Press the EDIT button and scroll to Damper Polarity. See if it's set to Standard or Reverse. 4. If problem persists after all that, try holding the pedal jack into the Roland at different angles and then try the same with where the cable connects to the pedal. At that point, you can either attempt to repair the pedal or get another one.
Hope this helps, Stewart

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