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My GX160 powering a generator won't rev up to produce power. Is the governor adjustable or has it failed?

I took the thing apart about 2-years ago when it wouldn't start and only got it together again this week so I may(!) have missed something. The not starting was probably just low oil - it has enough fresh oil now and starts but won't rev to produce AC Power even when I connect a load (I've tried a 30W LED light and a 1000W Vacuum cleaner)

  • Diamond J Legend
    Diamond J Legend Mar 28, 2018

    OK - Residual Magnetism I get.
    However that's not the issue I have - If I manually open the throttle to rev the engine it generates power and runs those loads, but then returns to idle if I let go of the throttle (with or without the loads). Sorry I didn't make that clear.
    Cheers!

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    Vicki Tavares Apr 24, 2019

    Your throttle should have an adjustable linkage! This is where you can adjust speed for 61 Hertz.

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Technically the governor in itself is not adjustable but requires an initial setting after assembly. Once the governor is set, the throttle is adjusted to obtain the desired RPMs.

Instructions for setting governor, plus more.
https://www.outdoorking.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/65896/honda-gc160-governor-help-needed.html

The shop manual may be selected and downloaded from
http://www.honda-engines-eu.com/shop-manuals?e=1_23&p=all&d=all&l=all&t=all
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If throttle position can't be adjusted for 3600 RPMs, then likely you didnt't reassemble throttle/governor linkage correctly.

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Your governor is adjusted for the correct 60 hertz cycles. You may have lost residual voltage to excite the generator to produce ac. Being that it was sitting long time.
I could explain in lengthy conversations but you could just google : how to excite a generator and there is good write ups online as well if not better than what I could explain in detail.

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