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Bradford White water heater, I was going to flush the tank but on opening the valve a short burst of 3 cups of very dirty water with a lot sediments.

I had the faucets open and the pressure relief valve but no draining. If I open the water supply valve then i have full pressure at drain valve.I open the supply valve and tried to flush that way but it only removed a couple of gallons of hot water, turned the faucets off and waited 10 mins then the water was getting fairly hot again. this was done with the gas turned off. It gurgled alot while trying to drain but never started flowing. So i started over a few times with no luck.Can you help me with this problem please? Reason was third time in a year with luke warm water

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Clogged valve

Testimonial: "I have backed flushed and restarted the draining process several times in the past but it will only drain a couple of gallons. still valve???"

  • robert Feb 05, 2018

    On everything you describe I still think it is a clogged valve. My guess would be you have a lot of sediment in the bottom of your tank. So try this remove the drain valve itself not just open it up but actually remove it from the water heater. That way you have a larger drain opening . Now you can also probe with a wire or a stick to remove any clog at that opening. Good luck. Comment as to your findings thank you

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1) Bradford White support:
http://www.bradfordwhite.com/supportserv.asp

2) Bradford white mi403s6fbn is 6-year-warranty 40 gallon tank-type gas water heater with Icon electronic gas valve, and atmospheric venting.
Older models have the dial-type Robert Shaw or White Rodgers gas valve.
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3) Bradford white has 'product manuals' and 'service manuals' on following link:
Product manuals have general information and advisories that people can read about water heaters.
Service manuals are for plumbers and technicians, and do-it-yourselfers for testing and repairing water heaters.
http://www.bradfordwhite.com/documentation/residential/gas.asp

4) Typical manual for your product shows different gas valves, lighting instructions, and advisories, and troubleshoot checklist:
http://www.bradfordwhite.com/images/shared/pdfs/manuals/238-44219-00J.pdf

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Check valve, TP valve and mixing valve probably need replacement.
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What kind of noise? Are you sure the noise is from a valve or is it inside the tank caused by sediment build-up inside of tank?

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Lower element or shorted wire to lower part of tank or upper thermostat not wired correctly are next suspects. If plumber replaced the parts the wiring will be correct, but he may not have checked for shorted wire.
If the elements were replaced but sediment was not cleaned out of tank, then that can also cause the problem you describe: the new lower element is shorted out because its stuck in the sediment or no water is circulating around the new element.
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1) Gas or electric, the noise is from sediment build-up inside tank.
Once sediment builds up, the only way to solve problem is to clean the tank out.

2) To restore full efficiency to electric water heater and stop the noise, clean the tank:
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3) To clean gas water heater is more difficult and less successful:
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4) To prevent sediment problem, flush water heater each 6 months before sediment can build up.
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There is a condition called stacking.
This might apply to your water heater or not.
Having authorized service people to your house 3 times suggests more complicated mix of problems.

Stacking is caused when there are repeated short draws of hot water.
As you know, each time any hot water is drawn out of faucet, cold water immediately enters bottom of tank through the dip tube. The dip tube is connected to cold water inlet and runs to bottom of tank.
So all cold water enters bottom of tank close to the gas water heater thermostat.
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Let's say your water heater if fully heated and burner is off.
A short draw of hot water causes cold water to enter tank.
Another short draw. And then another short draw, each draw happens close to same time as other draws.
Water at top of tank is plenty hot, but bursts of cold water get near thermostat and cause thermostat to turn on burner.
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The Tank is a good place to post water heater questions
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Oct 2010. If you have more questions, add a comment at bottom and it sends me an e-mail
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