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Capabilities of the Robin 2400is generator

Required for my caravan to run a Mark 3 AC , microwave and washing machine. Theses would be the big items and will this generator cope with more than one item at a time being operated?

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ac units are 2000 watts minimum, washing machines are 1500 watts minimum, microwave is what is on the plate and start at 650 watts but most are 2000 watts
the 2400 is the peak out put for start up of fridge , washer etc and the running wattage will be 2000 watts or less ( duty cycle )
to run more than one of the nominated items at once you will be needing a 5500 to-6500 watts unit
they handle a start up surge of 6500 watts ( larger one) and will comfortably handle 5500 watts run full load
it works like this , the plate on the gen set is the surge short time load capacity of the genset and not the duty load which is 500 to 750 watts less than that plate wattage
for example your 2400 is is surge rated at 2400 watts but duty load is less than the 2000 watts
many people make the mistake of buying a gen set that looks big enough but do not calculate the maximum load capable on being put on the gen set
fully loaded uses more fuel /hr
wears out faster
has power surges as the extra load cuts in and the motor struggles to get back to required rpms for voltage and cycles
will not cover extras like lights ,
a much large gen set will take it all in it's stride , no power surges, better economy, less stress
talk with an electrician , do your maths on everything you wish to run and that which you forgot about then add 1000 watts to the duty cycle and that will be close to the gen set you require

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