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What is age and value of a Vose & Sons antique piano?

Beautiful wood, walnut (?), some decoration. In good condition and well cared for. s/n 51188. Thank You!

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We would need the serial number to get the age.Value will be dependent on various factors such as condition, location, etc

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    Veronica Brown Oct 11, 2016

    s/n is 51188. Thanks for your reply!

  • rhodesworks Oct 11, 2016

    I can find two differing dates from different sources, one 1900-1905, and one 1910-1915. However, given that age, either would be close enough. On one that old, it would be impossible to establish a value without physically examining the piano. I suggest consulting a piano tech near you that can come appraise it. Look on www.MITA.com for a person in your area. Here are some links you may find interesting.
    http://antiquepianoshop.com/online-museu...http://www.total-piano-care.com/Vose-and...http://www.bluebookofpianos.com/serial1....

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    Veronica Brown Oct 11, 2016

    That was very helpful, appreciate it,
    Thank you so much!

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