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Pamela Bauder Posted on May 26, 2016
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Why is the thread shredding at the needle?

Using #18 needle, #92uvr bonded polyester thread. Am replacing screen in heavy canvas for our boat.Multi layers of canvas,screening & one section has vinyl window. Two sections are canvas and zipper. Was working great then thread started shredding and knotting.

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Shredding will happen, in this case, mostly because the canvas is abrasive and wears the thread each time the needle pierces the fabric. A thread can pierce the fabric 10-20 times before it becomes part of a stitch. Try a top-stitch needle. It has a larger groove to shield the thread when it pierces the fabric. Also check that the thread is not too large for the needle eye. A small needle eye can also shred thread.

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Try replacing the needle again, also look for burrs on the needle plate and in the bobbin area

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Thread shred. Pfaff 463. Using 120/19 new needle. And Sunguard Anti-wick UVR bonded polyester thread for marine canvas. Why is my thread shredding?

From my past sewing experience (not an industrial machine), the thread will shred if the needle/thread/fabric are incompatible. Could be the canvas is too coarse and is wearing on the thread like sandpaper. Remember, the thread/needle will penetrate over 10 times before that section of thread actually forms a stitch, so that's a lot of friction going on. In regular sewing, a top-stitch needle has a larger scarf which acts to protect the thread, however, not sure that is a choice for your machine.

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I am trying to replace monofilm panels in a windsurfing sail, using a Singer 457 zig zag sewing machine. I cannot create a good zig zag seam when the monofilm is sandwiched between two canvas layers.

Joe, you might try a larger needle than you're using. You might also want to try a larger leather needle. You machine should take needles up to a size 18.

It sounds like the needle you're using is having a problem picking up the bobbin thread, and that might solve it.
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Iam sewing seats. but the threed stared braking at the needle & it want saw.

Most likely, it has to do with incompatibility of the needle, thread, and fabric. The force of the needle penetrating the fabric multiple times is actually causing the thread to (wear &) fray and eventually break. There are needles with larger grooves that tend to protect the thread during stitching. Some may recommend a Top Stitch Needle (Home Machine Needles Superior Threads Why Topstitch? The Topstitch needle is the most common needle type used and recommended by professionals and educators. We recommend the Topstitch for piecing, quilting, embroidery, appliqu?, and construction. These needles are available in four sizes to accommodate all thread types, including metallic threads. The Topstitch needle has a larger eye and deeper groove. It is often referred as the MAGIC NEEDLE. It really does make a difference in your sewing experience.)
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Also, if the thread is a tight fit through the needle eye, it will also tear the thread. Make sure that the thread will slip easily through the eye. Go to a larger needle, instead of 90, try a 100.

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You may also consider changing the type of thread you are using. Go with a stronger thread, ie polyester, rather than cotton. Cotton will shred and break easier.

You will probably need to re-adjust the thread tension. If it is too tight, it will also break the thread. If you are using a heavier weight of thread, you will need to adjust both the upper and bobbin tension to accommodate the heavier thread.
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Polyester thread fuzzing on my 328k singer. using an 18 needle on marine vinyl

try changing the needle--just incase the needle tip is damaged
check for burrs in the thread guide area where the top thread runs
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Top thread keeps fraying and shredding

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Tension

I answered this a couple days ago but don't know if it went through. I can sew through 6 or more layers of denim with my 226, no problems at all. In my 30 years in the upholstery business I never had a problem sewing leather, vinyl, canvas or multi-layers of fabric. The 226 Consew, the 111W and 211w Singers I had presented zero problems with heavy fabrics - and I don't consider vinyl "heavy".

You need to first of all check threading. If the machine's threaded wrong you're break thread. Also you need to oil under the bobbin case and the bobbin hook and the rest of the parts as well.
Then, loosen thread tension on top by turning the knurled knob that's on the spring that's holding the tension discs. Also loosen bottom tension on the bobbin case by turning the small, left-most screw on the outside of the bobbin case counter-clockwise. Do both with the presser foot down. Pull the thread(s) out and feel the tension. You should be able to pull the threads out with some little effort. Tighten both a little at a time until you get some tension. Run a couple seams and check where the threads meet in the fabric. They should meet in the center. Also check stitch length. If you're using 92 thread (is should be left twist), you should run the machine at about 6 - 7 stitches/inch. I'm running my machine at 5 - 5 1/2 with #69 nylon bonded, and 6 - 6 1/2 with #11 mono.
One more thing; if tension's too loose at the bobbin or top, the machine will jam in the bobbin and thread will break.
Go to www.consew.com and download a pdf owner's manual for free. You need to click on the 224. That machine, the 225 and 226 are the same.
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