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I am trying to recover data from an 80gb samsung 2.5'' harddrive. I am using a sata to usb conversion cable. Does anyone have any idea what the jumper settings (if any) are to slave this drive, I have looked on samsung website found user guide for this model but it doesnt show jumper settings for this drive. I am still googleling it. Model is HM080JI?

  • fuge_sam Jul 17, 2009

    Thanks for this, will have a good look through these links incase anything can help. The reason I asked about jumpers is that on the drive (laptop drive), there is the sata cable connection, then the sata power connection and next to that there are 4 pins, Possibly these are the jumper pins the previous answer refers to re speeding up the drive. The drive is seen in disk management as a basic drive with 74gb but I cannot assign it a drive letter, presumably because it has a windows installation on it. Thanks for the help.

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Sata does not have jumpers for primary or slave
the only jumper is to speed up your harddrive when using ot

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Http://www.samsung.com/us/support/popup/howToGuidePopup.do?howto_guide_seq=1123&type=harddiskdrives
this are the settings for a 40G samsung ...but from what I understood its the same ...
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/products/Product_SpinpointNseries.html
here is the official page ..but its the same ...I don't believe its a 80 G on SATA and it has jumper pins...anyway ..try the same settings it will work ..:P
maybe its an Hibrid...

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Find socket for hard drive

HP part number 5188-5473 brings up the Asus A8N-LA motherboard, made especially for HP,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00647121#N413

The rest of the number/letters do me no good.

I will elate some information based on the above, and see if it does you any good;

1) The Asus A8N-LA has connectors for two types of Harddrives;

A) IDE. Also known as PATA.

This type of Harddrive uses a flat ribbon IDE(PATA) data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

Another look,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

(The Asus name probably won't be on it. These two IDE data cables just happen to be made by Asus )

The connectors on each end have 40 socket holes. One socket hole will be blocked off. (Or should be) ONLY 39 socket holes are used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

A look at the connector on the motherboard;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_on_mainboard.jpg

Looking at the motherboard illustration, look at the Bottom/Right corner. There are two IDE connectors. They are marked as IDE 1, and IDE 2.

Scrolling down a little bit to the motherboard photo, you will see IDE 1 connector is Black in color, and IDE 2 is Blue in color.

The IDE (PATA) harddrive's data cable goes to IDE 1.
Optical drive/s (CD/DVD drive) goes to IDE 2.

This is the type of power cable from the Power Supply, that goes to an IDE (PATA) harddrive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

NOTE*
There is usually a square, or rectangle, or two bumps; used on the IDE ribbon cable connector, to line up with the connector on the motherboard, or harddrive, or optical drive.

It is called a Locating Lug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

This particular IDE data cable connector, has two raised bumps, for a Locating Lug.

It lines up with a Cutout in the motherboard's connector, or the harddrive's connector, or the optical drive's connector.

IF, there is NO Locating Lug, use the faint Red stripe on the side of the IDE data cable.
The red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 wire.

Number 1 wire goes to number 1 pin.
On a harddrive, or optical drive, number 1 pin is ALWAYS closest to the power cable connection,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Looking at the photo number 1 pin is on the Right side. It is closest to where the 4-pin Peripheral power cable plugs in.

B) SATA:

Looking at the motherboard photo, the Yellow, and Blue, and Black, and White connectors; to the left of the Blue IDE connector, and Black IDE connector; are SATA connectors.

SATA 1 is Black. This is where the SATA harddrive's data cable, is supposed to plug in.

The BEAUTY of SATA though, is that you can plug the harddrive into ANY of those SATA connectors on the motherboard, and BIOS will find the harddrive. (Or any other peripheral device)

An example of a SATA data cable, and it's connector,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_ports.jpg

The red SATA connector shown below the SATA cable example, is just a different style of SATA motherboard connector; than what your motherboard uses.

Note the L-shaped opening in the SATA data cable's connector.
Lines up with the L shape on the motherboard connector, or harddrive connector, or optical drive connector.

Most SATA data cable connectors, also have a Lock on them.
Sometimes it's a Lock you can easily see.

Most times, it is a small depression you depress with your thumbnail, or a little 'bulb' you depress.
Depress/unlock to plug the cable in, or remove the cable.

The 90 degree angle connector end, (As shown), plugs into the harddrive, or optical drive. The Straight connector end plugs into the motherboard.

This is an example of a SATA power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

Between it, and the SATA data cable connector, it is the larger of the two.
SATA power cable connector has 15-pins.
SATA data cable connector has 7-pins.

Also note the rectangular depression on the SATA power cable's connector. That is where you depress to unlock the connector.
The SATA power cable's connector also has an L-shaped opening.

2) IF, you are trying to hook up a laptop harddrive to this motherboard, you need to determine if the laptop harddrive is an IDE (PATA) type, or a SATA type.

How?
Easy.

There is a label on the laptop harddrive. It has the manufacturer code on it. Type the number/letters in your browser search bar, and click on the search icon. (Magnifying Glass)

Now purchase an external enclosure.

The external enclosure opens up, and the laptop harddrive goes inside, and plugs into an interface.

Close the external enclosure, and plug it's USB cable into any available, open USB port on your computer.

It will be a 2.5 external enclosure.
Harddrive's are measured across their width.

A desktop harddrive is 3.5 inches across in width.
A laptop harddive is 2.5.

Example of a 2.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086960&CatId=2782

Example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette
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Connections to the hard drive

The Harddrive is a SATA unit.

Uses a SATA data cable, and a SATA power cable.

SATA data cable, and connector on motherboard, example;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_ports.jpg

Between the SATA data cable connector, and the SATA power cable connector; the SATA data cable connector is the shorter of the two in width.
SATA data cable connector has 7-pins.
SATA power cable connector has 15-pins.

The connector end used on the harddrive side, and optical drive side, (CD/DVD drive), is usually a 90 degree Bent Elbow.
The connector end that plugs into the motherboard, is a Straight connector.

NOTE* Color of connectors does NOT matter.
Most of the time the SATA data connectors on the motherboard, are different colors.

This is to help discern what number of SATA data connector it is.
Four SATA data connectors on the motherboard?

SATA 1, SATA 2, SATA 3, and SATA 4;
Or:
SATA 0, SATA 1, SATA 2, and SATA 3?

SATA 0, or SATA 1, is usually reserved for the Harddrive.
The Primary harddrive with the Operating System on it.
(Unless you have harddrives set in a RAID configuration)

DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SATA DATA CONNECTOR, you plug into, on the motherboard.

Want to plug the harddrive into SATA 3, or SATA 4?
Go ahead.
NO matter what SATA connector on the motherboard that you plug into, BIOS will find the harddrive.

Note the L-shape in the connector.
Has to line up on the L-shape on the harddrive, optical drive, or motherboard, SATA data connector.

There is usually a lock on the connector. This you may not see.
Sometimes there is a little 'bump' on the connector. Depress with the thumbnail to install the cable, or remove.

This is an example of a SATA power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

NOTE*
IF, your SATA harddrive has a provision for plugging in a SATA power cable, AND a 4-pin Peripheral power cable; ONLY plug the SATA power cable in.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Using BOTH types of power cables will BURN the harddrive up.
May not happen right away, but I assure you it will happen.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA
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Seagate st90000u2 160gb no longer recognized by home laptops

w7

First, please disconnect all USB devices and then perform the following steps:


Click "Start" button, type "devmgmt.msc" (without quotation marks) in the "Search" bar and press "Enter". Click "Continue" if necessary.



In Device Manager, double click to expand "Universal Serial Bus controllers", right click on the Host Controller, click "Uninstall" and click "OK".



Repeat the step 2 to uninstall all items under "Universal Serial Bus controllers".



Then, restart your computer and Windows 7 will reinstall all USB controllers automatically.


for xp


click start control panel administrative tools computer management device manager scroll down universal serial bus controllers you could see a yellow question / exclamation mark? ! or a red X


you will need to update/reinstall drivers

right click to reinstall drivers


if you can see your usb but its not working

ports(com&lpt)right click update driver


sometimes the wires inside the cable will be damaged due to bending or stretching or placing heavy equipment upon the cable


just replace the cable of the hard disk, when you plugged the external disk drive you got that windows could recognize the USB device change the cable everything should work fine again,



if you can see your usb drive but its not working

ports (com&lpt) right click update driver if this fails to fix the problem


check the USB leads that attach to the motherboard usually red white green black make sure they are securely seated and have no dust build up on them dust will cause static and a lot of unforeseen problems to a computer and its parts


if this fails to fix the problem
Downloads to Recover Your Files and Save Your Bacon and 10 Best Free Hard Drive Utilities.


Some addition links found on Google
http://www.datarecoveryreview.net/


http://www.cleverfiles.com/


http://www.easeus.com/resource/hard-disk-data-recovery.htm


hope this helps

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Asus pro31f series duoT2350 notebook does not boot up. Potential motherboard failure? How do I recover data?

A) Remove ALL power. Remove the AC adapter (Charger), and Battery.
B) Remove the Harddrive;

According to specifications it is a 100GB SATA harddrive.

Harddrives are measured across their width.
A laptop harddrive is 2.5 Inches across in width. (2 -1/2 inches)
Desktop harddrives are 3.5

Install the Asus Pro 31F harddrive in a 2.5 SATA external enclosure.
The external enclosure has a USB cable. Turns your laptop harddrive into an external harddrive.

One example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

C) I believe what may be going on, is you have a failed Power MOSFET, or Power MOSFET's.

?O_O?

MOSFET,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET

Power MOSFET,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_MOSFET

D2PAK surface mount,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D2PAK

(Requires using a clip heatsink on each lead when soldering.
After all, this uses Transistors )

Motherboard problem, yes I believe you may be correct.
Repairable? Yes.
Find a tech that can perform this? Isn't easy.
Most just want to replace motherboards.
Why? More $$$$$$$$.

(Ahem, I'm telling you about it, so I am not one of these noobs! Lol!)

Regards,
joecoolvette
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CAN I USE MY HARD DISC WITH USB CONNECTION

Yes, you can. You'll need a little more hardware however. You can find "hard drive enclosures" at many computer stores, ebay and electronics stores. They look like these. In order to make this work, you need to determine the physical size and interface of the Samsung hard drive first. Most notebook drives are 2.5" and most desktop drives are 3.5" types (regardless of capacity). You'll need to find an enclosure for the drive size and interface type.

The Samsung drive is likely to be either and IDE type with a SATA (serial) or PATA (parallel) interface. Pictures of SATA cables are here, and PATA cables are here. You would select the enclosure depending on 2.5" or 3.5" size and SATA or PATA interface type. Lastly, would be to choose either a USB connection between the computer and enclosure, or an ESATA type. ESATA simply means External SATA. If your computer offers an ESATA jack on the front or rear panel, you might consider using it as it is much faster than USB. If you do not have an ESATA jack, stick with the USB type. All but the most oldest computers support USB 2.0 standard speeds, newer computers have a faster USB 3.0 speed (5Gbit/S) standard, but this hardware is fully backward compatible to the USB 2.0 & USB 1 speed (480Mbi/S) and hardware standards. If your computer has the original USB 1.x standrad speeds, you might consider purchasing a USB 2.0 or 3.0 expansion card as the USB 1.x standard is very slow (just 12 Mbit/S). Check these links for pictures of ESATA, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 If you look closely, you can see the slight differences. USB 1.0 and USB 2.0 look identical.

Some enclosures will require / include a power adapter for the drive. Make sure you get what is required to get the drive to spin up properly. After your computer is up and running, connect the external drive to the USB jack and let the computer install drivers as needed; then use it as any other thumb drive etc. ESATA however may be different. In any case, follow the instructions included with the enclosure you purchased.

After copying good data, you might be able to format and scan the Samsung drive and map out the errant portions. Even still, I would not use the drive for important information or day to day uses. If you do, be sure to maintain frequent backups.

Good luck!
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Cannot find the sata plug on motherboard

A SATA harddrive uses a SATA power cable,

(15-pins, long connector. Harddrive side connector is usually a 90 degree elbow,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

Cables are usually Red with Black connectors, but cable, and connectors can be ANY color )

,and a SATA Data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA

A SATA Data cable has the shorter connector. It has 7-pins.

{ SATA power cable provides power to the SATA harddrive.
The SATA Data cable is the information cable. Data,..information, is transferred back, and forth across this cable }

This is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable. The connector on the end of the cable is referred to as a 'Molex' connector.
(It is a misnomer. Molex was the first design name, from the first company who made it. The name stuck. Kind of like calling an open-end adjustable wrench, a Crescent wrench ),

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

IF, the SATA harddrive has a provision for plugging in a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable, AND a SATA power cable,

ONLY USE JUST THE SATA POWER CABLE

Otherwise you will burn up the SATA harddrive. (Maybe not right away, but I assure you it eventually will happen)

The connectors on the end of the SATA power cable, and SATA Data cable, have an L shape on the inside.

This L shape needs to be matched up with the L shape on the harddrive for the SATA power cable, and harddrive AND motherboard, for the SATA Data cable.

The beauty of SATA technology;

IF, there is more than one SATA connector (Header) on the motherboard, the harddrive can be plugged into ANY one of them.

For example if there are 4 SATA headers on the motherboard;
They can be labeled SATA 1, SATA 2, SATA 3, and SATA 4,
OR,
SATA 0, SATA 1, SATA 2, and SATA 3.

The harddrive usually plugs into SATA 0, or SATA 1.

With the SATA technology however, you can plug into ANY of them, and BIOS will find the device. (In this case a harddrive)

For the HP Compaq Business Desktop D330 computer, the motherboard is an Asus A8SN-CF (HP/Compaq name = Phoenix),

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00858789&product=321856#N31

All I see is one SATA header (Connector) on the motherboard. It is at the top right area, and is Black in color.
(Right below the thin green label on the edge of the motherboard, at the top. Third connector from the right)

Go down, and click on the + sign to the left of -
Motherboard Layout.

Look at the Top, and third connector over from the Right side.
You can barely make out - SATA1.

Motherboard installed in the computer case, the SATA 1 header (Connector) is at the Bottom of the motherboard.
Third connector (Black) over from the left side.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Remember, there is NO such thing as a silly question)

Regards,
joecoolvette
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My lacie drive fell off desktop and is not recognized as readable by my Mac. What chance do I have of recovering the data?

Inside that LaCie external harddrive's enclosure is a regular SATA harddrive.
The kind that fits in a desktop computer (3.5 inches in width), or laptop. (2.5 inches across in width)

Open the external enclosure (Case) of the LaCie, remove the harddrive, and install it into a suitable external enclosure.
(Laptop size, or desktop size)

The external enclosure has a USB cable also. Just plug it into any available USB port on your desktop computer.

Do I know for a fact that the harddrive is okay, and this will fix the problem?
No sir/maam I do not.

But IMHO this is the first diagnostic method to use.

IF the harddrive is a desktop sized harddrive, it could be installed in your desktop computer as a Slave drive.
However the above method is so much easier, and it allows your harddrive to be an external harddrive once more.

Inside the external enclosure of the LaCie external harddrive, is a small circuit board that the Harddrive plugs into.
It is this small circuit board that receives the damage in most cases.

If the problem is the Harddrive itself, a professional data recovery shop will;

A) Try a new, or good used harddrive circuit board.
Check to see if the harddrive's circuit board received the damage.

B) If the circuit board proves to be good then the next step is to remove the Platters inside.
The room used is a Clean Room.
A room that is 99.9 percent dust free. (In most cases)

The Platters are installed into the case of a compatible harddrive, that has the Platters removed.
Then as much information as possible is copied off.

There are other methods data recovery specialists use also.

[A Harddrive is built in a Clean Room. 99.9 percent dust free. The technicians wear a Clean Suit, that resembles what a doctor would wear in an operating room.
They enter the work area after going through a corridor, fitted with air jets at various levels.

If a harddrive is opened up in a room that is not a Clean Room, the harddrive's 'life expectency' drops to a day, or a few hours. The dust 'kills' them ]

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/hard-disk.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpY8c7lT_7k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax390l2A-AY

Observe the other videos also.

Examples of both a SATA 2.5 external enclosure, and a SATA 3.5 SATA enclosure,
(The Harddrive's width is measured in inches. (2-1/2 inches for a laptop drive, 3-1/2 inches for a desktop drive)

SATA 2.5 external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

SATA 3.5 external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4421576&CatId=2780


For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

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So, basically we have 2 possibilities:
1. A failing USB-to-SATA interface. You can test this possibility by disassembling the device, taking the hard drive out, & testing the hard drive in your desktop computer using a 2.5" to 3.5" SATA adapter. If the hard drive works fine, then the problem lies within the USB-to-SATA interface.
3. In the previous step, if the hard drive could not be detected by your desktop computer or is not working properly, then it is the failing part.
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afre? It could be bios issue not recognizing the harddrive correctly therefore writing bad data to it and the data becomes corrupted and unreadable. Updating the bios could fix that...

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Could be faulty power supply. I hope this was some help.

G'luck
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