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Keith Wolfgram Posted on Jan 17, 2016

Does the Hobart Dishwasher have separate chemical pumps for the detergent and rinse aid?

Model LX30H - Dishwasher does not appear to be pulling any detergent from the 1-gallon jug for the wash cycle. Rinse aid is working as I can see it pulled through the supply tube during the cycle.

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Yes, it has two pumps

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  • Posted on Apr 30, 2009

SOURCE: put rinse liquid detergent in dishwasher rinse aid compartment.

I did the same thing with my Maytag dishwasher, several times actually, before realizing I was putting blue dish soap in the rinse aid compartment which then wouldn't empty. Then my Maytag started making ominous noises during the rinse cycle (appliance guy said it was "cavitation" noise).

Appliance guy wanted to replace the whole detergent/rinse aid compartment but since he told me the noise was probably caused by the dish soap stuck in the rinse aid compartment, I decided to try to get rid of it first. Here is the method that worked for me; it took most of a day but saved me parts & labor:

1. Get some white vinegar--I used nearly a quart.
2. Fill the rinse aid compartment to brim with the vinegar (overfill) but don't put cap on
3. Raise the dishwasher door slowly until the vinegar drains into the lower part of the chamber (at least this is how my Maytag worked)
4. Agitate the contents as best you can by rapidly shaking the dishwasher door up & down.
5. I also used a small plastic medicine dropper jammed into small openings on each side of the rinse aid compartment to agitate the vinegar by squeezing air into them.
6. Drain the compartment by closing the dishwasher door (move it to full vertical)--vinegar will drain into the bottom of the dishwasher.
7. Repeat above steps a couple times, then fill again w/vinegar, put the cap on and let it stand for awhile. Then drain and repeat the whole routine several times.
8. Blue-colored vinegar will come out which is a good sign (or whatever color your dish soap was).
9. After awhile, I started pouring generous amts of very hot tap water thru the rinse aid compartment, alternating with white vinegar. (No reason you can't use hot vinegar also.)
10. Eventually, all the blue stuff came out & the see-thru levels of the rinse aid compartment were completely clear/empty.
11. Run the dishwasher (I decided to not put any rinse aid in). I got some overfoaming (from the washed out soap) the first time I ran it which I probably could have remedied by adding more vinegar & possibly salt, but the noises were gone!
I just ran the cleaned out dishwasher a 2nd time & it was back to its quiet self with no overfoaming.

Takes some patience but hey, beats a big repair bill!!

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 09, 2010

SOURCE: hobart lx18 no power to detergent pump, during the

you have to go into program and activate the detergent pump.sounds like somebody deativated the det. program

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  • Posted on Mar 21, 2010

SOURCE: hobart lx30h rinse additive is running all the

The main cause is the "anti flood" device at the bottom of the washer that detects a water leak "hose leak" etc. This device made up of a polystireen float and micro switch is a safety device and when activated puts the washer in pump out mode only. You need to look at the base of the washer and see if water leak has caused this. Rectify the cause "normaly hose or clamp" and this should clear the

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Hey traboH - thanks and we do need to get a chemical supplier - but this machine does not have automatic dispensers - how else might I add soap? Thanks, robin879

It's acceptable to just pour the proper amount of detergent right into the unit every time you wash a load. However, there are two things to consider.

1. Without pumps, it is important to ensure that your final rinse temperature is, at minimum, 180 degrees for proper sanitation of your dishware. If you have a LXiGC, as you've indicated, you'll have trouble doing this because that unit does not have it's own booster heater to maintain such high temps. Usually, sterilization is achieved through the use of a chemical sanitizer, delivered via a pump during the rinse cycle, on that particular model.

2. Also, it will be impossible to properly deliver rinse aid (jet-dry) to the machine without pumps. This may lead to noticeable "spotting" of your glassware.

Adding pumps to the unit is an option I would seriously consider. Your most economical route would be to have your chemical company install their pumps externally. Your local Hobart office can offer you the addition of chemical pumps, as well, but you'll pay a premium price for them.

I'll add, if you do decide to get the pumps, insist that the proper ratio of chemical is being delivered (achieved via pump programming). It's not uncommon for the pumps to be improperly programmed and excessive amounts of chemicals consumed. These guys are, after all, in the chemical SALES business.
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There should be three colored plastic tubes at the rear of your machine. Red is to be put in a container of liquid detergent, Blue is for rinse aid, and white/clear is for sanitizer. Your chemical salesman should be able to show you how it's done at no charge.

You may also want to register here http://www.hobartservice.com/Manuals/ then download the manuals for the LXi dish machine.

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