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Where is the flow meter in a saeco vienna machine? How do you clean it? The message is Fill watertank, ventilate. We ran water from the steam nozzle, at least 2 1/2 cups, but the message is appears on the screen. We turned it off, cleaned the machine, checked the sensors, still says to ventilate and fill watertank. Help!

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The flowmeter is on the bottom of the machine follow the line that leads from the pump and you will see the flowmeter.

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