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When the system is in the heating mode of operation and a dirty indoor coil is present, the system will have high sub-cooling?

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Subcooling is only a factor in the cooling mode. you convert the discharge psi to temperture and measure liquid line tempsrture. subtract difference it should be between 8 to 12 degrees.

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Why your unit is freezing up.

To understand why your AC or heat pump is freezing up, it helps to know how your system works.

There are 7 major parts to an AC system, 9 with a heat pump.

1 - Condenser/heat pump (The outdoor unit)
2 - Air Handler (the indoor unit unless the system is a package unit, then all is outside in one system. The air handler is usually found under the home, in an attic, or in a closet.)

In the condenser are the following major parts.

3 - Compressor
4 - Condenser coil
5 - Condenser fan
6 - (HPs only) reversing valve

In the air handler are the following major parts.

7 - Blower motor
8 - Evaporator coil
9 - (HPs only) electric heat strips

Some systems known as "dual fuel systems" use another heat source in place of the heat strips, usually a gas furnace. I will address gas furnaces in another post.

When an air conditioner is operating properly several things are taking place.

1 - The compressor is compressing or "pumping" refrigerant through the system.

2 - through changes in pressure, the refrigerant makes the evaporator coil get very cold, and the condenser coil gets very hot.

3 - The blower motor/fan circulates air across the evaporator coils, as the room temperature air (Also known as "indoor ambient") goes through the cold coil, it exits, cooled approximately 15 to 20 degrees cooler than when it entered. (In a ducted system, the blower is also the fan that circulates the air throughout the home.)

4 - The condenser fan circulates air across the condenser coils. As the outdoor air goes through the condenser coil, it removes heat from the coils that are very hot. This in turn removes heat from the refrigerant so it can run its cycle again, and through pressure changes, cool the evap coil.

5 - With a heat pump, the reversing valve reverses the flow of refrigerant in the condenser and evaporator coils.
In AC mode, the evaporator coils get cold, and the condenser coils get hot. But in heat mode, the evaporator gets very hot, and the condenser very cold.

Now, whichever coil is getting cold will freeze up if there is inadequate air flow across the coil, as the refrigerant in it is far below freezing, and there is not enough airflow to keep the humidity in the air from freezing on the coil.

Things that can cause poor airflow are,

1 - Dirty/clogged coils
2 - dirty/clogged filter (will only effect evaporator coil)
3 - Closed/blocked vents (will only effect evaporator coil)
4 - Malfunctioning or dirty fan

Low refrigerant will also cause a coil to freeze up, reduce efficiency and cause the system to run for long periods of time. Not to mention, shortening the life of the unit.

With a heat pump, in heat mode only, the condenser (outdoor) coil will routinely begin to freeze up in cold temperatures. This is due to the fact that the refrigerant is below freezing, and the cold outdoor ambient temp is not warm enough to keep the condensation in the air from freezing on the coil.

Note, a properly working AC should never freeze up.

A heat pump is equipped with defrost controls to prevent ice buildup.
Some are controlled by timers, some by temp.

When a HP is going into defrost mode, the condenser fan shuts down, the reversing valve reverses the flow of refrigerant and the once cold condenser coil now gets very hot, defrosting the coil. (Many people have said this process sounds like the unit is coming apart, or about to explode and are frightened by the "smoke" which is really just steam from melting ice that comes off the unit.)

During defrost mode, the secondary or "auxiliary" heat comes on to ensure that you are still getting warm air from the vents. (Again, this can be electric heat strips or a dual fuel system)

If you are experiencing cold air from the vents during defrost, that means your auxiliary heat is malfunctioning.

The auxiliary heat is used for three purposes.

1 - during defrost mode to maintain warm airflow (automatic)
2 - when the HP cannot maintain the set temp due to extreme outdoor temps. It comes on when the indoor temp drops several degrees below the set temp on the thermostat (automatic)
3 - For emergency heat source when the HP is not working. (Manual)

To recap....

Iced up coils?

Poor airflow
low refrigerant
Malfunctioning fan
failing defrost system


There are two things that can be done in a pinch to help de-ice frozen coils. This may get you by until the repairman can get there, or you can fix the system if you are a do-it-yourselfer.

HPs frozen outdoor coil in heat mode, not going into defrost?

Cover most of the vents, and turn the system onto cooling mode until the outdoor coil is thawed. then uncover vents and return to heat, or emergency heat. (this usually takes 15 min or less)

Frozen coils in AC mode with a heat pump?
Turn the system to heat with the thermostat on just high enough to get the system to come on. (again, usually takes 15 min or less to thaw.)

AC only, with frozen evap coils? (this can sometimes be seen frozen all the way outside to the compressor on the copper lines.)

Turn the system off, and the fan switch from "auto" to on".
This will usually defrost the coils within 1 to 2 hours.
(If your system has the furnace in line before the evap coil, turn the system to heat, and the furnace will defrost the coil within minutes.)



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How do I get the fault codes up on a Panasonic split air conditioning system CUE24FKR

14.2.2 To Make a Diagnosis1 Timer LED starts to blink and the unit automatically stops the operation.
2 Press the CHECK button on the remote control continuously for 5 seconds.
3 "- -" will be displayed on the remote control display.
Note: Display only for "- -" (No signal transmission, no receiving sound and no Power LED blinking)
4 Press the TIMER ? or ? button on the remote control. The code "H00" (no abnormality) will be displayed
and signal will be transmit to the main unit.
5 Each press of the button (? or ?) will increase error code
number and transmit error code signal to the main unit.
6 When the latest abnormality code on the main unit and
code transmitted from the remote control are matched,
Power LED will light up for 30 seconds and a "beep" sound
(continuously for 4 seconds) will be heard. If no codes are
matched, Power LED will light up for 0.5 seconds and no
sound will be heard.
7 The breakdown diagnosis mode will be canceled unless
pressing the CHECK button continuously for 5 seconds or
operating the unit for 30 seconds.
8 The LED will be off if the unit is turned off or the RESET
button on the main unit is pressed.
Diagnosis
display Abnormality / Protection control Abnormality
Judgement Emergency operation Primary location to verify H00 No abnormality detected - Normal operation H11 Indoor / Outdoor abnormal communica
tion > 1 min after starting
operation Indoor fan operation
only • Internal / external cable connections
• Indoor / Outdoor PCB H14 Indoor intake air temperature sensor
abnormality Continue for 5 sec. - • Intake air temperature sensor (detec
tive or disconnected) H15 Outdoor compressor temperature sensor
abnormality Continue for 5 sec. - • Compressor temperature sensor
(detective or disconnected) H16 Outdoor Current Transformer open cir
cuit - - • Outdoor PCB
• IPM (Power transistor) module H19 Indoor fan motor mechanism locked 7 times occurance
continuously - • Indoor PCB
• Fan motor H23 Indoor heat exchanger temperature sen
sor abnormality Continue for 5 sec. O
(Cooling only) • Heat exchanger temperature sensor
(detective or disconnected) H24 Indoor heat exchanger temperature sen
sor 2 abnormality Continue for 5 sec. - • Heat exchanger temperature sensor
(detective or disconnected) H27 Outdoor intake air temperature sensor
abnormality Continue for 5 sec. O • Outdoor temperature sensor (detec
tive or disconnected) H28 Outdoor heat exchanger temperature
sensor abnormality Continue for 5 sec. O • Outdoor heat exchanger temperature
sensor (detective or disconnected) H30 Outdoor discharge air temperature sen
sor abnormality Continue for 5 sec. - • Outdoor temperature sensor (detec
tive or disconnected) H33 Indoor / Outdoor wrong connection - - • Indoor / Outdoor supply voltage H38 Indoor / Outdoor mismatch (brand code) H50 Ventilation motor abnormality 7 times occurance
continuously - • Indoor PCB
• Ventilation motor H51 Nozzle lock abnormality 2 times occurance
continuously - • Nozzle H52 Limit switch abnormality - - • Indoor PCB H97 Outdoor fan motor mechanism locked 2 times occurance
within 30 minutes - • Indoor PCB
• Fan motor H98 Indoor high pressure protection - - • Air filter dirty
• Air circulation short circuit H99 Indoor heat exchanger anti-freezing pro
tection - - • Insufficient refrigerant
• Air filter dirty F11 Cooling / Heating cycle changeover
abnormality 4 times occurance
within 30 minutes - • 4-way valve
• V-coil F90 PFC control 4 times occurance
within 10 minutes - • Voltage at PFC F91 Refrigerantion cycle abnormality 2 times occurance
within 20 minutes - • No refrigerant
(3-way valve is closed) F93 Compressor rotation failure 4 times occurance
within 20 minutes - • Compressor F95 Cool high pressure protection 4 times occurance
within 20 minutes - • Outdoor refrigerant circuit F96 IPM (power transistor) overheating pro
tection 4 times occurance
within 30 minutes - • Excess refrigerant
• Improper heat radiation
• IPM (Power transistor) F97 Outdoor compressor overheating protec
tion 4 times occurance
within 10 minutes - • Insufficient refrigerant
• Compressor F98 Total running current protection 3 times occurance
within 20 minutes - • Excess refrigerant
• Improper heat radiation F99 Outdoor Direct Current (DC) peak detec
tion 7 times occurance
continuously - • Outdoor PCB
• IPM (Power transistor)
• Compressor

Note:
"O" - Frequency measured and fan speed fixed.
The memory data of error code is erased when the power supply is cut off, or press the Auto Switch until "beep" sound heard following by pressing the "CHECK" button at remote controller.
Although operation forced to stop when abnormality detected, emergency operation is possible for certain errors (refer to Error Codes Table) by using remote controller or Auto Switch at indoor unit. However, the remote controller signal receiving sound is changed from one "beep" to four "beep" sounds.
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Is the heat pump cooling itself down? It is a combination heat pump/air conditioner wall unit.

If a unit is in heating mode the outdoor unit is in cooling mode (outside always does opposite of indoor) after a while if there is a build up of ice on outdoor coil unit stops and puts hot gas through outdoor coil to clear it. The indoor fan stops to avoid and heat loss in area served buy unit once this has been done and indoor unit coil is hot again fan will start. This is the correct operation of the unit to save against bust could and reduced efficiency
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Flashing light the at says e6

Usually Indoor Unit Anti-freezing protection (Cooling
Mode) or Over-heating Protection (Heating Mode)
for Evaporator
A) Indoor room
temperature too low
under cooling mode,
Too high under
heating mode
B) Indoor unit filter or
evaporator too dirty
C) Indoor unit fan motor
blocked
D) Insufficient refrigerant
under cooling mode
E) Indoor unit evaporator
sensor wrong
connection or failure
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Chigo airconditioner is appear E4errior

E4
1. Check whether the winding resistance and operation current of the compressor are normal.
2. Check weather the high and low pressure is normal when the unit is running after 20 min of run time.
3 Check ( whether the coil pipe sensor is normal ) Whether the contact of the inserter on the circuit board is well, the coil pipe temperature sensor is fixed ( Whether there is water in the fixed clap ) the evaporator of the indoor unit is well, the key is to check the evaporator temperature detected by the coil pipe temperature sensor has reached the cooling or heating temperature ( Weather the temperature is higher or equal to 77 Deg F in cooling mode.
4. Check whether the surface of the condenser is to dirty,it should be cleaned when it is too dirty.
5. Check weather the capacitance of the outdoor motor and fan is not damaged, it should be replaced when it is damaged.
6. If the above items are normal, the electric control board should be replaced.
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Charging an air conditioning system

R22 systems should run a 68# to 70# suction pressue. If you look at the suction guage at 68# that is a 40 deg evaporator coil temp.
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Ac won't go down past 78 F while operating the presures are 15/ 150 psi. I think it needs charge. But how much charge what pressure does the low side need to be at?

The temperature outside and pressure chart are needed to accurately determine the proper charge. (temperature pressure charts to calculate heat gain) However the low side of the unit should read around 70 and the high around 210. This is a really broad generalization and I do not recommend you charge your unit just on this info. It will get you close if you are using R-22 and the unit is properly cleaned. A dirty evaporator coil will cause a severe low pressure reading on the low pressure side.
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