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ELSNER. E. CRUZ RODRIGUEZ Posted on Jun 08, 2015
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How do i fix the top thread just tangling, looping on the shutter race?

The bobbin seems fine, the hook is catching the needle thread at all times but does not catch the bobbin thread to loop for the stitch on the fabric. the thread is jammed on the bobbin race with race size loops of the top thread only.

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1. Make sure that you are using the right bobbin case. (LX3125) 2. Adjust the tension of the bobbin case. (I've sent a guide for this) Your's is considered the older style.
3. Make sure the bobbin that is used is the right one. If it is too long or too wide it will cause problems.
4. When you insert the bobbin case make sure the lock handle goes down flat with the bobbin case. Also, feel the bobbin case for rough snags.
5. Replace the needle. Insert it the new one in the right direction.
6. Thread the machine (while pressure foot up) according to the directions. While threading give small tugs to check for snags.
7. Place the tension on four. It is ok to feel by hand if this is excess tension.
8. While turning the hand wheel towards you the bobbin thread should rise above the throat plate.
9. This should be ok now. Try it on some old rags. Don't forget to set that bobbin case.

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