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Can't find the transfer switch, and could it go bad. Shore power and generator power works to the main panel box, but won't charge coach batteries

I have shore power and generator power to main breaker box. Both legs are hot on the main box, but no ac power to the coach. I turn on the inverter, I have ac power as long as the batteries are charged. I have looked at the schematics for the motor home, it shows a transfer switch, but I can't find it. Would a transfer switch go bad and create this proplem. The inverter is also a charger that is not charging batteries. The only way to charge the batteries is though the alternator on the main diesel drive engine

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Although it is possible to do separately most times the transfer switch is internal to the inverter , and the fact you mention that inverter is not charging batteries tells me your fault lay in the inverter all or part of it is not working , look at it carefully these have sometimes two reset breakers on there cases

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