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I have a cobra 25 ltd classic with firestik ngp antenna , using swr meter I cannot get a match.

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Make sure you have a good ground on the antenna and radio.
Check the SWR at Ch 1, Channel 20 and channel 40.
Does the SWR reflected power improve as you go up in channels or get worse.
If it gets better, the antenna is too short, if it gets worse the antenna is too long.
Also when you say a match, are you trying to get 1.1 to 1?
This may not always be possible depending on the antenna. Anything 1.5 to 1 or lower would be acceptable.
And again check your grounding, most Radio and RF issues are a result of poor grounding and poor antenna positioning and poor groundplane for the antenna.

Good luck

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 24, 2008

SOURCE: Cobra 29 LTD Classic not transmitting or receiving

ant. light should only come on if you have a high vswr a bad thing did you check that cb/pa switch is set to cb check your swr this is not a good place to mount ant. as it is close to metal of back of cab

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 07, 2009

SOURCE: Cobra 29 LTD Classic not transmitting or receiving

As I understand from a tech friend of mine, most truck beds are not grounded well enough. Perhaps you could borrow/purchase a magnet mount antenna and locate it on the roof, for testing. Then you would have it narrowed down to the location.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 24, 2009

SOURCE: cobra 29 ltd classic antenna calibration ??

Wow. That's not at all a solution to what this guy is asking. And why all the caps??

The one point jm77437 has that is correct is that you do not set the radio, you set the antenna. The rest is blah blah.

Here is how you tune your antenna for you radio. First off it depends on what kind of antenna you have. most fiberglass antennas have a tunable tip to adjust the height of the antenna. Metal whips either have a collar at the base that the whip will either slide up or down in to adjust the height. The other type of metal whip's you have to physically clip to shorten the antenna, you must be careful with this type because once its clipped, that's it. You cannot add what you cut off.

I am going to give this example using a metal whip with an adjustable collar.

First after your radio is hooked up in the vehicle, drive to an open lot. Buildings and other structures can cause extra reflection. turn to channel 1. Flip the meter to CAL. Key the mic without talking. Now turn the CAL knob up until the needle reaches the little upside down triangle all the way to the right marked CAL. Now you have just celebrated your radio for your setup to measure you SWR. Now while still holding the key, flip the meter switch to SWR. The needle will move, and where it stops is your SWR reading. The lower the better. Anything under 1.5 is considered really good. But still, the lower the better.

Make note of what your SWR was on ch 1.

Now flip to channel 40. Repeat the SWR process. You must recalabrate each time you take a reading.

Now like jm77437 said. If your SWR reading is higher on 40 then 1, then your antenna is too long, and you must make it shorter. Loosen the collar and lower the antenna in the collar 1/4 inch at a time. check the swr each time you adjust the antenna.

If your SWR reading is higher on channel 1, then your antenna is too short. You must make your antenna longer. Do this by loossening the collar and pulling the antenna upward in the collar 1/4 inch at a time, again checking the swr each time you adjust the antenna.

What you want to achieve is having the same SWR reading on channel 1 and 40. then you have the best match you are going to get with that antenna.

If your swr is under 1.5 on all channels, you don't need to fuss unless you are a perfectionist. then by all means go ahead.

If your reading is higher then 3, or your ant light comes on, something is really wrong. Make sure your antenna is connected all the way, and the coax is not damaged.

Its important to have an appropriate SWR because if you do not, you are reflecting too much signal back into the radio, and eventually you will burn out your final transistor, and your radio will be toast.

Some tips: make sure you check the swr with the doors and windows shut. Make sure you are in an open lot. Remember to calabrate ecah time you take a reading. If you have had your radio peaked by a radio shop, and they have lowered your dead key, or have done a swing modification, then the meter in your radio will not work when taking an SWR reading and you will have to use an external meter.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 24, 2009

SOURCE: cobra 29 ltd classic antenna calibration ??

You should not calibrate the antenna before you install it on the car!! the antenna needs to be calibrated on the vehicle that it is going to be on. Type of vehicle, different mounts, and many other variables can change the amount of reflection you will get.

j0hn9999 did a much better job but left some info out.

Take your SWR readings on channel 1, then on channel 40.... NOW, if your SWR is higher on ch 40 then ch 1, then your antenna is too long and it needs to be shortened. Refer to the antenna instructions on how to shorten the antenna.

If your SWR is higher on ch 1 then on ch 40 then your antenna is too short. You must lengthen the antenna. Again refer to your antenna instructions on how to lengthen your antenna.

You must calibrate each time you take a reading.

Make sure your doors and windows are shut when taking a reading

Make sure you are in an open lot when taking a reading as buildings, trees and other structures can cause reflection and give you an inaccurate reading.

If you adjust the length of your antenna on another vehicle and then put it on yours, the SWR will be off. It will need to be tuned again.

An external meter is better then the one in the radio, but will need to be hooked up in the vehicle you have the antenna on.

If you are not running any kind of power, or do not have a swing kit installed, and the radio is stock, the meter in the radio is more then enough to get a correct SWR reading.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 14, 2010

SOURCE: I reduced power to 2 watts using L14 on Cobra 29 LTD Classic

What you have occurring is one of 2 or both problems.

The first is called "common mode Transference" Its when you have feed back RF traveling down the out side of the coax, which it is not supposed to do, but it happens some times.

Here is the solution to this. It is called an RF choke.

Take about 6 to 8 inches of coax, as close to the antenna as you can. Coil it so that the coax is lined up perfect, coil after coil. Use electrical tape or zip ties to secure in place.

This will stop the RF from traveling down the out side of the coax to the radio.


If you still have the warning light coming on then you could just have a problem with the adjustment to the antenna light.

If the meter says your good with SWR, and the light comes on, then you need to disable the light. Find VR 6 and turn it all the way down. I Don't remember which way turns it down, but if you turn it one way and the light is still coming on, turn it the other way.

This will disable the light, so it will not annoy you.

Most likely the RF choke will fix the problem any way.

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