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Which ovens have heavy insulation to keep heat inthe oven

I just bought a GE JSBP23. When the oven is on, the cook top is too hot to touch near the oven panel. This is a low end model. Which ranges have stronger insulation?

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  • ellenkgarlin Jul 04, 2009

    I appreciate your quick response. When shopping, what questions do I need to ask or how do I identify other ranges (GE and others) that have solid insulation so that this doesn't happen to me again? Thanks.

  • ellenkgarlin Jul 04, 2009

    The response I received was totally bland and insufficient. I purchased a GE standard clean gas range.(JGBS23) Heat radiates from all over the range (especially cooktop) making it hot to the touch when the oven is on. I am returning it. When shopping, how do I identify other ranges (GE and others) that have solid insulation so that this doesn't happen to me again? What do I look for? What questions should I ask? Thanks.

  • ellenkgarlin Jul 04, 2009

    I purchased a GE standard clean gas range.(JGBS23) Heat radiates from all over the range (especially cooktop) making it hot to the touch when the oven is on. I am returning it. When shopping, how do I identify other ranges (GE and others) that have solid insulation so that this doesn't happen to me again? What do I look for? What questions should I ask? Please be specific. Is there something I can see inside the oven? On the door? Near the vents? Does standard clean vs self clean make a difference? Thanks.

  • ellenkgarlin Jul 05, 2009

    Please tell me more detail about what you know of the Kenmore insulation.

  • ellenkgarlin Jul 05, 2009

    Thank you . I will call the service. Yours is the first reply I received with any level of detail. I'm not sure these are really experts on this website. I dont think I'll be using this service much. When I talked with a repair person, he told me SPECIFICS. First off, standard ovens aren't as well insulated as self cleaning. Two, low end GE is not as good as low end Frigidaire. (Mine is a low end GE) Three, well insulated will have a heavier door and silver fiberglass insulation. (Not rubber insulation like mine) Four, all gas ranges vent through the control panel now and you have to use a good range hood to move the hot air around or outside.

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Hello,

I can see the issue you are facing with your oven is poor insultaion. Here are some of the criteria you need to look at when purchasing an oven.
Standard or Convection?

Standard ovens heat food using two elements, one on top and one on bottom. Convection ovens, which are more expensive, use a fan to circulate the heat around the interior of the oven. This provides for more even browning when baking in the convection oven. In addition, it seals the juices into meats better than a standard oven does, preventing the meat from drying out. Convection ovens are often incorporated into gas models, and sometimes into electric models.

Oven Capacity

Electric ovens come in sizes of either 27 or 30 inches, while gas ovens come sized 24, 27, or 30 inches. It is important to measure available cabinet space before choosing an oven. A proper fit is essential for safe usage of your new oven.

When choosing a suitable oven capacity size, it is important to consider both the space available in the kitchen and the largest capacity that the user expects to need.

Self-Cleaning Ovens

For many buyers, finding an oven that is self-cleaning is one of the most important considerations. A self-cleaning oven cleans the oven cavity without the need for scrubbing, saving time and hard work for the user. When set to cleaning mode, the oven locks automatically and heats the interior to 500 degrees, turning any residue into ash that can be easily wiped away. Some models allow the user to choose the duration of the cleaning, which is more convenient than waiting for an extended cleaning period, during which your oven will not be available for use.

Electronic Touch Pads

Electronic touch pads on the oven's control panel are easy to use, making the operation of the oven a simple matter. Touch pads are also easier to clean than knobs or dials, which often have places where grease and food from the stovetop can hide or get stuck.

Multiple Rack Positions

The ability to position the oven's racks allows the user to make best use of the oven's capacity. The buyer should look for an oven that has racks with safety stops. This will prevent the shelf from inadvertently being pulled out too quickly, which can be both messy and dangerous.

Door Types

Frameless glass doors look stylish, and they easily blend into most kitchens' built-in cabinets. In addition, this allows a large viewing area so that the user can easily see inside the oven.

Additional Features

Many ovens come with small 'extras' to make cooking more convenient for the user. Some of these features include extra shelves, removable doors, preprogrammed cooking, quick preheat, timers, internet controls, defrost, and different sorts of lighting options. It is a good idea, when buying an oven, to confirm that the light bulb is easy to replace.

There are a few units that offer users a side opening door. There are not many models available with this feature, but it is convenient because the user does not need to reach across an open oven door to place the food into the oven. This can be an especially useful feature for users who are wheelchair-bound.

Electric or Gas?

In the past, older models of electric ovens were known to take significantly longer than gas ovens to cook. However, oven technology has advanced to make this no longer a consideration, as the cooking time is not much different between gas and electric ovens. Electric ovens start at a much lower price than gas, and so are worth considering. In addition, most electric ovens are multifunction. They offer users the choice to use top or bottom elements, or a combination between the two. In addition, electric ovens have a grill function, and often offer a choice of using a rear element as well. Any of these choices can be used alone or in combination with other options. With all of these various means of heating the food, electric ovens tend to be more versatile than gas ovens. Electric ovens are more common than gas ovens, and so it is easier to find a good fit for the user's needs when purchasing an electric oven.

Gas ovens, on the other hand, don't dry food out as much as electric ovens do, except those that are fan-assisted (convection ovens). Dishes that require an amount of moisture will cook better in a gas oven. Gas ovens are made in such a way that they are hotter at the top than at the bottom, meaning that the food will need to be rotated in order to get an even browning of the food. (If the oven is fan-assisted, this is not the case.) Rotating the food is especially necessary if the user is using more than one shelf at a time. This uneven allocation of heat, though, does make an ideal situation for cooking several different foods at a time, even foods that require different cooking temperatures.

Many gas ovens also offer top broiling by use of an internal grill. This is an additional feature in some models, though, and not the norm for gas ovens. Without the internal grill, a gas oven will not be as good as an electric oven for browning foods across the top. If your gas oven does have an internal grill, it will need an electrical outlet in close proximity so that the grill can be powered.

Some new advances in oven technology include the light and steam ovens. Light ovens are a combination oven and microwave unit, with an additional halogen lamp to assist in heating the food. The purpose of the lamp is to reduce cooking time.

The steam oven is meant to cook food using a healthier method than conventional ovens. The idea is that fewer nutrients are lost in steaming than in baking or grilling. However, the steam oven does not brown food, so that if the user wants his or her food browned, it will still require frying or grilling. Steam ovens are also not as versatile as other oven types.
Ranges

Ranges can be found for as cheap as $300. Hotpoint, Summit, GE, and Sunbeam all manufacture units that sell for prices between $300 and $400.

Maytag sells several ranges for around $1,500. Various options are available for this price range, including electric ovens, gas ovens, convection ovens, and even a range with a double oven.

Prices for self-cleaning ovens very quickly get more expensive. Five Star has several self-cleaning models that sell for around $3,500.

AGA's multifunction ovens sell for over $4,000, and there are several models available in this price range.

Ranges with full-sized double ovens sell for prices over $7,000. Dacor's stainless steel model, which includes a double oven and 8 stove burners, sells for nearly $12,000.
After going through all this I have a few suggestion as to which models are good with better perfromance and good insulation.

I would prefer you could go for Maytag ovens which have proven to have standard performance.

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Hi...

Check the following

  • Check timer and clock settings
  • Reseat the element
  • Test the element
  • Test the element connectors
  • Test the oven temperature control
  • Test the oven selector control
Good luck !!!

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Kenmore model is absolutely OK base from my experience. Doesn't experience the hot cooktop problem because the conduction material is different.

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You need to look for "enegy efficiant" models, just ask for that.

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Hi,

GE has come up with new products which have high quality insulation. I am leaving it on you to decide which one would fit your pocket by selecting the model from GE's authorised web site.

http://products.geappliances.com/ApplProducts/Dispatcher?REQUEST=COMMERCIALCATEGORIES&CATEGORY=CA0018&SITEID=GEA

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If aluminum foil is stuck to the element, you might try turning oven temperature to highest setting for a while to see if the heat will cause the remaining foil to burn off the element. If it is a self-cleaning oven, perhaps the extreme heat will incinerate the foil during the cleaning operation. Another option might be to heat oven at low heat, wear heat proof mitt, and try to gently scrape away aluminum foil. If in doubt, contact your manufacturer and/or repair person.

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