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Steve Madrigal Posted on Jul 24, 2014
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Sewng machine fails to loop on bottom bobbin

Machine fails to loop thread on bottom bobbin

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There are several possible causes for this problem.

Simplest first.

1) The machine has sat in the closet for three or more months, and the oil has ceased. The fine oil requried for these precision machines does run away, and/or cease up into a grease like paste, causing the parts that move in precise harmony, to be not so precise.
The cure for this, is to remove all thread and fabric, and run the machine full speed for about two to five minutes. This heats up the parts and loosens up ceased parts. A good re application of fresh oil helps too.
NOTE: Check the needle is Straight by turning the machine a couple of turns by hand and seeing that the needle dosn't hit any metal parts. A breaking needle can cause dammage to the machine or user in when operating at high speeds.

2) Tension dials have been knocked out of balance. There is a numbered tension dial on the front of the machine, somewhere along the threads path from spool to needle. if this is too tight, the thread will not leave a loop big enough to catch the bottom thread. Be sure this is set to about 3, usually. It should be adjusted while stitching, when you get to that point.
On the bottom thread, on the Bobbin Holder piece that comes out of the bottom, there is a small screw that adjusts tention of the thread comming out. This screw should not be tight, but tight enough. Completely by tactile intuition, this screw should be adjusted to allow the thread to slide out of the bobbin holder smoothly. It must have some tension to pull the thread from it, but not so much that it is noticeable, or take much of a grip on the thread to pull it out. (difficult to describe)
These two tensioners must balance so the threads, cross paths, but also pull the stitched snugly into the fabric being sewed.

3) Bent Needle, this is a problem if the fabric being sewed has pulled the needle off it's center. If it is not perfectly straight, don't use it.

4) Cheap thread can be a problem. If the thread is frayed, or fuzzy looking, it may be that it will not work with as fine a needle you are using. Needles have various sizes and sized holes to feed the thread through, a fine needle needs fine thread, and coarse thread needs a larger needle.

These are the primary causes of the threads not looping together properly. I hope this helps.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Dec 14, 2007

SOURCE: Yet another stitch tension problem...

Thank you, thank you! I just tightened the screw on my bobbin case and that instantly fixed my thread tension problem. How on earth are you supposed to know about the little screw?! I thank you so much for the tip!

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 13, 2008

SOURCE: the bobbin thread on sewing machine will not catch

how do you retime

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 19, 2009

SOURCE: i dont understand what it means by...

I beleive what they are asking you to do is to bring up the bobbin thread to the top of the throat plate( which cover the bobbin area, to do this you hold the top thread end and manually turn the wheel to engage the bobbin thread and bring it to the top of the throatplate, now you should be ready to sew
Maryann Sosewhappy

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2009

SOURCE: thread caught in hook race

There should be a small screw on the side of your bobbin case adjust it little by little until you get the correct tension.

durantheman

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  • Posted on Oct 03, 2009

SOURCE: Top thread gets stuck around bobbin case

you might have a bent needle

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I have a1600p janome I can't get the tension set so the machine will stop making a messy loops on back of prodjects what should the tensions be set at or is there a different problem

Check that top thread tensioner is engaging.

After threading top thread, with presser foot up, rotate tension selector to 4. Then move presser foot down (this engages top thread tensioner). Make a slow steady pull of the top thread. Compare tension to when foot was up (no tension) to foot down (selected tension). If you move presser foot up and down while slowly pulling the top thread, you should feel the change from no tension to selected tension.

If you find there is no tension on the top thread, the top thread will loop and nest on bottom side of fabric. Rethread top thread per machine instruction. If still no top thread tension, either the tensioning mechanism has failed or it has not threaded properly.

Once you have verified the top thread tensioner is working, you need to check bobbin thread tension. Make a slow steady pull on the bottom thread. You should feel tension similar to the top thread with tension selector set to 4 and foot down. If the bottom thread tension feels loose, similar to top thread presser foot up, then likely the bottom thread has escaped the bobbin case tensioner. Reload bobbin and recheck bobbin tension.
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Are you asking how to pull the bobbin thread up? Simply hold the thread tail from the top thread and gently handrotate the handwheel toward you. One full circle completes one stitch cycle. The upper thread should hook the bobbin thread and pull up a loop. When that loop appears above the needle plate, gently pull the upper thread tail, enlarging the bobbin thread loop and catch it with a sewing tweezer, pin, or even the point of a scissor blade to pull the rest of the bobbin thread to the top.


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We were told to basically follow these suggestions in order to reduce chances of this recurring & to date, I still refer back to it when I forget myself, especially if I have been off my machine for a few weeks.
1) Machine should be clean and free of lint within machine and in and around bobbin casing.
2) Correct and sharp needles correctly inserted.
3) Threads will generally feed better from the vertical position so a vertical thread stand/ attachment is recommended.
4) Before beginning to thread the machine, check that the pressure foot is in the up position, the feed dogs are engaged, the thread take up lever is in the uppermost position.
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