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How do I replace a 3 way switch with dimmer?

What is the yellow wire? I can't find a manual for the 0s600 dimmer. I have a light controlled by 2 switches and i want one of them to be a dimmer. will the os600 work in this scenario?

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To replace a three way switch with a dimmer, you need to use a three way dimmer.

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    josh May 19, 2014

    it is a 3 way dimmer. I've hooked it up and the problem i'm having is that if i turn the switch off the dimmer doesn't work, and if i turn the light on with the dimmer, the switch doesn't work.

  • Joel Friedenberg May 19, 2014

    How many wires does the dimmer have and what are the colors? If there are three wires , Red, black, and yellow, the yellow is probably the common wire which should be hooked up to the "hot" wire of the circuit .. That's the wire that was connected to the black screw on the original switch.

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    josh May 19, 2014

    that is what my assumption was as well, and that's how i wired it. It's not working though. Do you know if the dimmer has to be on the live from the fuse box side, or does it even matter?

  • Joel Friedenberg May 19, 2014

    The red and yellow wires are the 'traveler' wires. The black wire is the hot wire

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SOURCE: What Dimmer can I use

Depending on your wiring, as to single pole (one switch location) or 3 way (two switch locations) you can use most dimmers. Leviton and Lutron have similar dimmers, and some specifically for cfl's.
Leviton has Sureslide, Illumitech, True Touch
Lutron has Diva, Skylark, and Lumea

Make sure your cfl is dimmable.

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Hi *****,

I'm an electrician and can help you with this problem. First - shut off the power. Check your wiring as I describe the connections below.

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These can be found at Home Depot, Lowes, and electrical supply stores.

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