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Anonymous Posted on Sep 12, 2017

Ideal classic se24ff

The boiler has worked perfectly for 5 years and annually serviced.There is no certainty that the boiler switches off when the programmer requests such - I changed the programmer to a new one and the intermittent problem continues. If I overide the programmer switch to 'on' then 'off' the boiler switches off ! What is likely to be the problem? Where do I look next ?

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Check wiring on the new programmer,sounds as if you have wires crossed.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 31, 2008

SOURCE: changing boiler programmer

take digital pictures - label all wires and reconnect - you do not need manual.

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Scott Magill

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  • Posted on Feb 09, 2009

SOURCE: The hot water and central heating wont work together

what size of gas line is going into boiler and water heater? is it black iron ? natural gas or propane? have you checked gas pressure at water heater and furnace ? if they work fine individually then you have a problem with incoming gas pressure. Call gas company and ask them if they would come out and check gas pressure.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 25, 2009

SOURCE: Protherm 100EC boiler not firing up

You likely have a flame sensor problem.

If you can wath the ignition proccess, see if you ever notice a flame. If yes, and it then shuts downm, you have a flame sensor failure, replace the sensor and clean the flame burners and orifices.

If no flame at all, then your ignitor is failing, or you are not gatting gas to the ignitor.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 12, 2009

SOURCE: Free copy of an Ideal Classic LXFF Boiler Manual

no but Ideal will post one out to you on request

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 06, 2009

SOURCE: on the ideal c95ff the boiler the red neon lockout

overheat stat , does it come back on with reset ?best of luck

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