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Ideal classic se24ff

Our SE24FF has worked perfectly for 5 years and serviced annually. Recently and intermittently the boiler does not switch off when the programmer requests it .I overide the programmer by 'on' then 'off' and the boiler switches off . I installed a new replacement programmer and the problem remains.What should be looked at next ? What might the problem be ?

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The problem may be the thermostat or the heat senser

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Scott Magill

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  • Posted on Feb 09, 2009

SOURCE: The hot water and central heating wont work together

what size of gas line is going into boiler and water heater? is it black iron ? natural gas or propane? have you checked gas pressure at water heater and furnace ? if they work fine individually then you have a problem with incoming gas pressure. Call gas company and ask them if they would come out and check gas pressure.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 12, 2009

SOURCE: Free copy of an Ideal Classic LXFF Boiler Manual

no but Ideal will post one out to you on request

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 16, 2009

SOURCE: i am looking for installation instructions for

can be required from local merchant may have to post it to you best of luck

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 06, 2009

SOURCE: on the ideal c95ff the boiler the red neon lockout

overheat stat , does it come back on with reset ?best of luck

Rod Davies

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2010

SOURCE: water dripping out of external pipe from ideal

Do you find that the boiler water pressure drops over time?
Then replace the pressure relief valve. You'll find it in the lower part of the boiler connected to that external pipe.
Close off the water pipes to & from the boiler and then replace
On some you can dismantle the valve and clean the scale from the inside and it works again - but not always 100%
It's either this or the fill tap/valve is not turned off fully

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