TRying to change into full size bed with no instructions do i need special rails or standard ones?

I also had this crib, it has been recalled. You can get a full cash refund at walmart. You don't even need the receipt.

Congratulation for your purchase. But this model has been removed. Try the latest one.

You can use about any full size bed rails you wish. They may need a little fitting but if you are looking for actual Ellis 4 in 1 bed rails here is a place that sells them http://www.babylox.com/simplicity/ellis-full-size-bed-rails-espresso225893.php Ellis no longer makes them rails themselves, they were discontinued.

They are out of business.

You need to get a full size conversion rail kit from any bedding store. Make sure you get the "hook-on" style.

we are having the same problem. My husband found this number online that another user said she used. I guess it took her months to find it because with the company being out of business the 800 number that came with the crib isn't working. I've yet to call he just called me with it. the company is out of canada and is said to have the rails or able to get the rails. Its Else Graco, you need your model number and color. 1800-667-8184.

You can call or email and get the instruction sheet.

You can also call and they might be able to walk you through how to do it.

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i have the same problem but i searched long and hard and found this wesite where you can purchase the conversion rails.
Simplicity Ellis Crib Conversion kit for Full size Bed

http://www.nybabystore.com/p-4994-simplicity-ellis-convertible-kit.aspx

I do have the directions for the Simplicity Ellis Crib'n Changer Combo. We bought though Babys R Us and when we got home there were no directions in the box so we went to the store (Spring 2008) and they had an extra one laying around. they said if they couldn't find one they could call the company and get one for me. Thats one way of getting one. There is a number on the instructions but it looks like its been disconected i did find this info on a website but didn't call so not sure if it works or not.
Simplicity Inc
501 S 9th St
Reading, PA 19602
(610) 685-6900

I did look at my directions and there are additional parts you need to change from crb to toddler (2 safety rails, 4 short bolds and 4 long bolts) to change from toddler to full size beed you need (2 adapter places, 1 small bolt, 1 large bolt, 1 rear dresser leg and 1 front foot board leg). Hope that helps. if i had a scanner i would post directions for you.