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My 2012 traverse rear ac fan stay on when the car if turned off. I have to pull the fuse to get it to turn off. put the fuse back in and the fan is ok

Probably something going on with the blower motor control Processor . Hooking a scan tool an checking for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes would be the first step in a diagnostic procedure for a problem like this .

Auxiliary Blower Motor Control Processor
The auxiliary blower motor control processor is an interface between the auxiliary HVAC control module and the rear blower motor. The auxiliary blower motor control processor monitors supply voltage and ground circuits to the rear blower motor. The auxiliary HVAC control module provides a pulse width modulation (PWM) signal to the control processor in order to command the blower motor speed. The auxiliary blower motor control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.
The blower motor forces air to circulate within the vehicles interior. The vehicle operator determines the blower motors speed by placing the blower motor switch in a desired speed position or by selecting automatic operation. In manual operation, once a blower speed is selected, the blower speed remains constant, until a new speed is selected. In automatic operation, the HVAC control module will determine what blower speed is necessary in order to achieve or maintain a desired temperature.
As the requested blower speed increases, the following conditions occur:
• The HVAC control module increases the amount of time that the blower motor speed control circuit is modulated to ground.
• The voltage and duty cycle, measured between the blower motor speed control circuit and ground, decrease.
As the requested blower speed decreases, the following conditions occur:
• The HVAC control module decreases the amount of time that the blower motor speed control circuit is modulated to ground.
• The voltage and duty cycle, measured between the blower motor speed control circuit and ground, increase.
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I have a 2008 Chevrolet Uplander and we are looking to replace a fuse for the rear air. Can you tell me where it is located?

Fuse for rear air ????? No air coming from rear vent's ? That would be caused by the HVAC blower motor not working . Probably not a fuse issue , if the fuse is blown you have a bigger issue . Fuse's don't just blow for no reason - electrical short circuit, too much current draw etc.. . More then likely it's a problem with the blower motor control module or the blower motor . Located behind the right rear trim panel . But go ahead an check the fuse anyway , fuse # 26 - 25 amp located in the underhood fuse / relay box . marked RR -BLWR/ 110 VAC
Auxiliary Air Speed
The auxiliary blower motor is controlled by the front auxiliary blower motor switch. If the vehicle is equipped with rear DVD (U32), the auxiliary blower motor can be controlled by the overhead console, vehicle entertainment system (VES). The front auxiliary blower switch must be in the AUX position in order to control blower speed from the VES. The VES will send a class 2 message to the HVAC control module requesting a blower motor speed.
The auxiliary blower motor control module is an interface between the HVAC control module and the auxiliary blower motor. The auxiliary blower motor speed control, auxiliary blower motor speed signal, blower motor speed control, and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module sends the commanded blower motor speed to the control processor through a 0 to 8-volt linear ramped blower motor speed control circuit. As the blower motor speed control voltage increases, the blower motor speed increases. The control processor sends the actual blower speed to the HVAC control module through a 0 to 12-volt blower motor speed signal circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed. The underhood fuse block supplies 12 volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit.
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Where are the fuses for the blower motor on a 2005 Pontiac Bonneville

Doesn't work on any speed ? high - low . Does your's have manual or automatic climate control ?
Don't think a fuse problem , blower motor control processor more then likely .
Blower Motor Control Processor
The blower motor control processor is an interface between the HVAC control module and the blower motor. The blower motor speed control, battery positive voltage, and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module provides a pulse width modulation (PWM) signal to the control processor in order to command the blower motor speed. The processor supplies 12 volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.
Look here for fuse location an wiring diagram's http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year , make , model an engine size. Under system click on HVAC , subsystem HVAC controls . click the search button then click on the 5th blue link . This show's fuse location an wiring diagram for the blower electrical circuit . If you don't know where the rear fuse box is ,it's under the rear seat . It would be easier to just check under the passanger side dash at the blower motor control processor at the orange wire .
Do you know how to test electrical circuits with a voltmeter ?

GMC Yukon HVAC Blower Motor Won Turn On
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Blower fan not working at all 2004 Buick rendezvous

Which system ?
HVAC Systems - Manual HVAC Systems - Automatic
If automatic it's probably the blower motor control processor .
Blower Motor Control Processor The blower motor control processor is an interface between the HVAC control module and the blower motor. The blower motor speed control, Blower motor speed signal, battery positive voltage and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module sends the commanded blower motor speed to the control processor through a 0 to 12-volt linear ramped blower motor speed control circuit. As the blower motor speed control voltage increases, the blower motor speed increases. The control processor sends the actual blower speed to the control module through a 0 to 12-volt blower motor speed signal circuit. The processor supplies 12volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.
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Missing variable control voltage on the blower fan control module on a 2008 Buick lucerne

What are you using to test this control signal ? Were you on right wire ?
Blower Motor Control Processor The blower motor control processor is an interface between the HVAC control module and the blower motor. The blower motor speed control, battery positive voltage and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module provides a pulse width modulation (PWM) signal to the control processor in order to command the blower motor speed. The processor supplies 12 volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.

Chevy Trailblazer EXT Blower Motor Won Turn Off The blower motor in this video don't shut off , but he show's how to test the PWM signal right !
Your blower motor control module is probably bad , or HVAC control panel is bad , or a wiring problem !
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If I have voltage going to the blower motor from the resister on a 2008 trailblazer with auto climate, why would the blower motor not work

This vehicle doesn't have a blower motor resistor ! It has a blower motor control module , if you have automatic climate control !
If manual climate control , then there is a blower motor resistor assembly !
Blower Motor Control Processor The blower motor control processor controls the speed of the blower motor by increasing or decreasing the voltage drop on the ground side of the blower motor. The HVAC control module provides a low side pulse width modulated signal to the blower motor control processor over the blower motor speed control circuit. As the requested blower speed increases, the HVAC control module increases the amount of time that the speed signal is modulated to ground. As the requested blower speed decreases, the HVAC control module decreases the amount of time that the signal is modulated to ground.
Air Speed - Front Control
The blower motor forces outside air into the vehicle's interior. The vehicle operator determines the blower motor's speed when the driver places the blower switch in one of 5 blower speeds. The blower motor will always operate in any switch position other than OFF, as long as the ignition switch is in the RUN position. The blower motor and mode switches are located within the HVAC control module. The blower motor OFF input is connected in series with the HVAC control module by the off blower motor control circuit.
Depending upon the selected speed, power is provided to the blower motor from either the ignition 3 voltage or battery positive voltage circuits from the fuse block. The battery positive voltage circuit only provides power when the High blower switch position is selected. Power and ground are provided to the HVAC control module by the ignition 3 voltage and the ground circuits.
Low Blower Speed When the Low 1 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the low blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 4 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
Medium Blower Speeds When the Medium 1 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 1 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 3 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
When the Medium 2 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 2 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 2 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
When the Medium 3 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 3 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between a series resistor, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
High Blower Speed When the High blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the high blower motor control circuit. The voltage energizes the blower relay, causing the blower motor to be connected directly to the battery positive voltage circuit. The blower motor and blower motor relay are grounded through the ground circuit.
Go on you tube an check out videos on trouble shooting blower motor circuit
Chevy Trailblazer EXT Blower Motor Won Turn Off
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2008 Impala blower don't work

You probably have a bad blower motor control module .First check the Batt. 4 fuse 30amp in the under hood fuse box .
Blower Motor Control Processor The blower motor control processor is an interface between the HVAC control module and the blower motor. The blower motor speed control, battery positive and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module provides a pulse width modulation (PWM) signal to the blower motor speed control processor in order to command the blower motor speed. The processor supplies 12 volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground or low reference as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.
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Blower stays on after key is removed, now a/c works in front once I hit the highway.

Which of these systems does your vehicle have ?
HVAC Systems - Automatic
Blower Motor Control Processor
The blower motor control processor controls the speed of the blower motor by increasing or decreasing the voltage drop on the ground side of the blower motor. The HVAC control module provides a voltage signal to the blower motor control processor over the blower motor speed control circuit. As the requested blower speed increases, the HVAC control module increases the amount of time that the speed signal is modulated to ground. As the requested blower speed decreases, the HVAC control module decreases the amount of time that the signal is modulated to ground.

HVAC Systems - Manual
Air Speed - Front Control
The blower motor forces outside air into the vehicle's interior. The vehicle operator determines the blower motor's speed when the driver places the blower switch in one of 5 blower speeds. The blower motor will always operate in any switch position other than OFF, as long as the ignition switch is in the RUN position. The blower motor and mode switches are located within the HVAC control module. The blower motor OFF input is connected in series with the HVAC control module by the off blower motor control circuit.
Depending upon the selected speed, power is provided to the blower motor from either the ignition 3 voltage or battery positive voltage circuits from the fuse block. The battery positive voltage circuit only provides power when the High blower switch position is selected. Power and ground are provided to the HVAC control module by the ignition 3 voltage and the ground circuits.
Low Blower Speed
When the Low 1 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the low blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 4 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
Medium Blower Speeds
When the Medium 1 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 1 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 3 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
When the Medium 2 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 2 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between 2 series resistors, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
When the Medium 3 blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the medium 3 blower motor control circuit. Voltage is divided between a series resistor, a blower relay, and the blower motor to achieve the desired blower speed. The blower motor is grounded through the ground circuit.
High Blower Speed
When the High blower speed is selected, the HVAC control module applies voltage to the blower motor resistor assembly through the high blower motor control circuit. The voltage energizes the blower relay, causing the blower motor to be connected directly to the battery positive voltage circuit. The blower motor and blower motor relay are grounded through the ground circuit.

HVAC Control Module
The HVAC control module is a class 2 device that interfaces between the operator and the HVAC system to maintain air temperature and distribution settings. The battery positive voltage circuit provides power that the control module uses for keep alive memory (KAM). If the battery positive voltage circuit loses power, all HVAC DTCs and settings will be erased from KAM. The body control module (BCM), which is the vehicle mode master, provides a device on signal. The control module supports the following features:
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The heater fan won't stop, even if i turn off the key the fan still turn, unable to control it, it only turn at one speed (not the fastest one), i check the resistor it look like there's a short in it, the...

Your impala doesn't have a resistor , it has a blower motor control processor and it doesn't work the way you think it does
Chevy Trailblazer EXT Blower Motor Won Turn Off
Blower Motor Control Processor
The blower motor control processor is an interface between the HVAC control module and the blower motor. The blower motor speed control, battery positive voltage and ground circuits enable the control processor to operate. The HVAC control module provides a PWM signal to the control processor in order to command the blower motor speed. The processor supplies 12 volts to the blower motor through the blower motor voltage supply circuit. The control processor uses the blower motor ground as a low side control to adjust the blower motor speed.

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