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Jeremy Schark Posted on Jan 14, 2014
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2008 f150, 4x4 is stuck in high. fuses are good. so are relays. what do i check next

4 wheel drive is stk in 4x4high. i have checkd the fuses and relays. both are good. what do i check next. or do i take it in to the auto shop

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Hey,Jeremy; Have you checked the fluid level in the transfer case? This is done from under the truck.vehicle must be level,block wheels,in park,set emergency brake,ign. off. the transfer case is forward of the transmission,connected to the front axles,behind[above]the skid plate,which can be unbolted & removed to make the job easier,especially your first time doing it.In the side of the case there are two plugs with a square hole in which fits a 3/8'' or 1/2 ''drive ratchet. the plugs are usually steel,where as the case is aluminum.the plug near the bottom of the case is the drain hole.Above it is an identical plug,the fill hole.remove the fill[upper] plug first,FULL is level with the hole,a small amount of fluid should drip out, or a finger tip will feel it 'right there'.If you've gone this far,consider changing the fluid. check your owners guide for type,capacity,and recommended service intervals. to change,simply remove lower[drain] plug,take a break while it drains into a suitable container.recycle like motor oil.when drained,replace lower plug,add proper fluid until it begins to drip out.now it;'s FULL,replace fill plug,check both are tight.replace skid plate.regarding 'stuck' situation;start engine,check for leaks .stop engine un-chock wheels..turn switch to 4wd H.if on pavement drive slowly(35 mph) to a place you can back up straight and kinda too fast for about 50' brake FIRMLY to a complete stop.repeat 2 or 3 times,placeing transmission in neutral,switch to 2wd before your last reverse 'lunge' and stop.put it in drive and motor away smiling and waving to strangers.....NO??drive 'til it's good and warmed up,try reverse fast & STOP a couple times with switch at 2wd.shut it off for a few minutes,disconnect neg. battery cable for 5 minutes to reset computer, re-connect batt. That's all I got Dude GOOD LUCK> Ford IS the TRUCK!

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