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Posted on May 20, 2009

Technics 1210 tonearm skates when cueing vinyl backwards

Think the tonearm may be out of line - advice please (stylus and cartridge brand new)

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I've seen this on technics turntables before. Try tightening the screw on the arm.

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To get the stylus to stay in the groove but not have too much weight is a question of trial and error. Having too much weight applied will cause the record to rumble, too little and it will skate across the record.
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On the end of the tone arm is the weight with numbers on set it to the one specified by the cartridge. Then you test a record - best done with headphones. If the record plays ok without jumping and no rumble then it's good. If it jumps - stop - increase the weight by a slight amount only and try again. Repeat till the problem stops. If it rumbles, then decrease the weight as before slightly and repeat till it stops.
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I'd fix the tonearm issue first before using it to decide you have a feedback-related issue with one brand of cartridge. I can't say how that would be fixed.

Feedback? Like airborne sounds from the speakers vibrating the turntable and being amplified through the speakers? The biggest downside to old-school vinyl use is that possibility and the workarounds we had to use to prevent it. Acoustic and physical isolation are the only solutions.
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Basically, like almost any other turntable.

Look up the recommended tracking force for your cartridge/stylus.

Unplug the power to the turntable.
Using the tonearm elevation control, raise the tonearm.
Manually move the tonearm in toward the platter.
Manually rotate the platter ClockWise a few turns to disengage any cueing mechanisms.
Set the Tracking and Anti-skating controls to 0.
Disengage the tonearm elevation control. The tonearm will either float or drop. This is why we have no power, just in case it hits the platter.
Adjust the counterweight until the tonearm floats exactly horizontal. Use the flat portion of the tonarm rest as a gauge.
Return the tonearm to its rest.
Dial in the prescribed tracking force and anti-skating. Play records.


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Basically, like almost any other turntable.

Look up the recommended tracking force for your cartridge/stylus.
Unplug the power to the turntable.
Using the tonearm elevation control, raise the tonearm.
Manually move the tonearm in toward the platter.
Manually rotate the platter ClockWise a few turns to disengage any cueing mechanisms.
Set the Tracking and Anti-skating controls to 0.
Disengage the tonearm elevation control. The tonearm will either float or drop. This is why we have no power, just in case it hits the platter.
Adjust the counterweight until the tonearm floats exactly horizontal. Use the flat portion of the tonarm rest as a gauge.
Return the tonearm to its rest.
Dial in the prescribed tracking force and anti-skating. Play records.
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Need to know what settings the anti-skate and the counterwieght on the back of the tone arm should be set to. Also when pressing start tonearm will not move at all. Can still cue it manually...

The counterwieght should be set the tracking force for the cartridge/stylus fitted. These are expressed in grams. Typical about 2 to 3 grams. If the weight has numbers on it these will match the grams. There's no right setting for the skate. Should the stylus start to skate accross the record increase the force. Start low!

On the arm movement, has the arm moved before after pushing start taking it to a record? As many turntables just don't.
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Here's a procedure for setting the tonearm...

Look up the recommended tracking force for your cartridge/stylus.

Unplug the power to the turntable and place it on a perfectly level surface.

Set the Tracking Force and AntiSkating to 0.
Using the tonearm elevation control, raise the tonearm.
Manually move the tonearm in toward the platter.
Manually rotate the platter Clockwise a few turns to disengage any cueing mechanisms.
Disengage the tonearm elevation control. The tonearm will either float or drop. This is why we have no power, just in case it hits the platter.
Adjust the counterweight until the tonearm floats exactly horizontal. Use the flat portion of the tonarm rest as a gauge.
Return the tonearm to its rest.
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The only thing I can say is to make sure you set up your cartridges correctly - click HERE FOR INSTRUCTIONS on BALANCING YOUR TONEARM properly.

If, you've balanced your tonearm, and set up your cartridges correctly, then you should not have any problems. Unless, your tonearms are damaged. But this is highly unlikely. I just think you need to balance properly.

Another note, Ortofon Concorde have a design flaw, in that they don't connect very well to the Technics tonearm. The Concorde's, have short and stubby connections on the rear, making for poor connections to the tonearm. Ortofon has addressed this issue by releasing the Ortofon OM series cartridges, and mount them to standard Technics Headshell.

If you still can't figure this out, feel free to give our techs a call 24/7 @ 1.866.668.1596 ext 1 - they can walk you through setting up, and properly testing your tonearm to see if it's damaged or not.

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There are two main things that will influence the anti skate settings.

1) The Headshell Weight and Balance
Firstly, check the data sheet for the cartridge and stylus you are using. It should tell you the correct weight setting which will vary from one cartridge and stylus to another. If the stylus is set too light, it can skate across the disc. This can damage the disc and the stylus. The sound will also be thin and it is likely to distort on high frequencies. If the weight is too heavy, it will not jump but will definitely damage the disc.

If you are a serious vinyl user, get yourself a tone arm balance. This is a device that you place on the turntable and you rest the stylus on a plate which is marked in micrograms. You place the stylus exactly at the correct weight marking and then make adjustments to the turntable settings until the tone arm is balanced. It's easier than it sounds!

If you don't have the data sheet for your cartridge and stylus and cannot find it online, use an old disc that you don't mind damaging, set the weight on the light side and gradually increase the weight until it stops skating.

2) Platter Levelling
Secondly, you need to make sure your turntable us on a level surface. If you are a purist, use a spirit level. to do this.

There are other things that can cause skating and jumping, especially if you use the turntable as a DJ. For example, vibration (caused hopefully by dozens rocking to your music). DJs will often increase the headshell weight very slightly to overcome this and I have sometimes placed the turntables on a thick rubber sheet such as carpet underlay to improve shock absorption.
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