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PRE OUT/PWR IN - (1) Effects Loop - Connect PRE OUT to an effects device input, then connect the effects device output to PWR IN. (2) Multiple Amps - Connect the primary unit's PRE OUT to the auxiliary unit's PWR IN. The primary unit is used to control all auxiliary units. (3) Recording or Reinforcement - Connect PRE OUT to sound equipment's input. Both jacks use a TS (Tip-Sleeve) standard type plug for connections. PRE OUT includes onboard tone shaping.

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