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Anonymous Posted on Jul 02, 2013

How to set piston to top dead center on the compression stroke

I'm installing a new push rod but need to know how to set the piston to top dead center

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Remove number one cylinder spark plug , turn engine over till compression is felt, this is compression stroke, look on the flywheel or crank shaft pulley for a mark to line up with, this will be TDC on compression.

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I believe that is an overhead valve engine. that the valve cover off and turn the crank until both Intake and exhaust valves are closed. That is TDC

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