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Anonymous Posted on Jun 27, 2013

Surging The generator is less than a year old. The first time the power went out and it actually was needed, it came on and surged terribly. We shut it down and slept in the camper with a portable generator. The installer checked it out and suggested that the problem was caused by a regulator on the fuel line. The propane supplier even though skeptical replaced the regulators. It has only come on for a couple short periods since then and has worked fine and it works fine every Sunday when it comes on for its weekly test. Then last night during a storm the power went out and the generator came on and surged terribly. We shut everything off at breaker box to prevent damage to appliances and let generator run for several minutes and surging stopped. We put load back on and ran fine for about 5 minutes when power came back on. Today after storm started it up with no load and continues to surge at startup. Kohler has not been very helpful.

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  • Robert Wooley
    Robert Wooley Jun 29, 2013

    PLEASE CLARIFY. Is the engine surging or is the voltage surging

  • Robert Wooley
    Robert Wooley Jun 29, 2013

    You mention the lp gas supplier but you say it is fuel injected. Fuel injection is for gasoline engines. Is the engine speed surging or is the generator voltage surging?

  • Anonymous Jun 29, 2013

    The engine is surging, thereby causing generator to surge in power It is like it is in big swing, rpms increasing and decreasing a lot. Lots of thumping in the high and low pressure regulators. It is LP, sorry for the confusion.

  • Robert Wooley
    Robert Wooley Jun 29, 2013

    A unit like this has an electronic governor to control engine speed. There is an electronic control box that controls the throttle valve, AKA the carburetor throttle plate. The controller controls the actuator to operate the throttle. The controller must get a signal to know how fast the engine is running. This signal can come from a number of places. The most likely is a magnetic pickup mounted on the housing between the engine and generator. It counts the teeth on the starter ring gear on the flywheel. Find this magnetic pickup and make sure it is connected properly to the controller. There is usually plug and it may have come loose.Carefully follow the wires to the controller to make sure everything is well. If the controller is getting it's signal, it may be a bad controller or a controller out of adjustment. There is an adjustment labeled "stability" . Turning one way will make it worse and the other will make your problem go away. Turn it only enough to give speed stability and no more..The governor is actually two governors in one. The first is to keep the engine at 1800 rpm for 60 cy current. The other is an overspeed governor to keep the engine or generator from coming apart from overspeed.

  • Anonymous Jul 01, 2013

    I suppose we are in over our heads with this one...everything is computerized and out of our confidence level. We have the gas company coming back out Friday to replace regulators again. Then we will be at the mercy of the installer to figure out why this keeps happening. Very disheartening since it was so expensive and was to provide a sense of security but we now keep it off because we are afraid it will come on while we are away and damage everything.

  • Dennis Stuart Harrell
    Dennis Stuart Harrell Nov 10, 2019

    I have a Kohler 20 KW propane generator installed in 2015. It works OK under load but has surged on exercise ever since installed. Kohler has worked on it several times but has never been able to correct it. I was told it is a "common" problem with this size unit. They (Kohler) know my voice when I call with a problem but really don't care. They also tried to cheat me out of a $960 repair bill when the computer controller went bad at just over 2 years. I got the NC Dept of Justice involved and they stopped sending me bills. I wished I had known about this before I bought Kohler. I had a Generac at my last home and never had a problem.

  • CJ Rock
    CJ Rock Nov 11, 2019

    Unit model number?

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It definately sounds like a fuel problem, lack of fuel..I assume it is running on LP or natural gas. The hose running from the demand regulator goes to the carburetor/mixer. When it gets to the carburetor, there is an adjustable main jet. It is different on different models, but is usually easy to find. There is probably a screw slot in the end of the screw head and a spring under the head. Start it up after locating the screw and open the jet just enough to even out the running. It was factory set, but barometric pressure and altitude and different fuels in different areas will decessitate different settings.
Please let me know if this fixes your problem, Robert

  • Anonymous Jun 29, 2013

    There doesn't seem to be an adjustment as you described. This model has a fuel injected Chevy engine and everything seems to be computer regulated.

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  • Posted on Jun 12, 2010

SOURCE: 1975, 7.5 Kohler marine genset, runs only with the reset depresed

Can't search for a manual without model, type, serial, etc numbers...

A few things to take a look at:

1) Oil level / pressure sending unit. This is normally bypassed as long as the start switch is pressed. When engine starts, and switch is released, engine will die if sending unit is defective, or you are low on oil.

2) Exhaust temperature sensors. Older units were notorious for burning these up.

3) Cooling Water Temperature sensor. These cause trouble often, but mostly due to water pump impeller being eaten away by galvanic action and not able to pump water as effecively. End result is water temp higher than normal, which trips the switch, which kills the engine.

4) Alternator (generator) output not as it should. If output doesn't rise to proper level within a few seconds of engine start, the engine will be shut down.

5) Choke not working as it should

6) Bad fuel, bad fuel pump, clogged fuel filter.

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  • Posted on Sep 20, 2010

SOURCE: I have a new Kohler 12kw res generator on propane - backfiring

did you put the propane orifis in and unplug the spark wire

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  • Posted on Dec 02, 2010

SOURCE: My 18RESL Kohler Propane Generator ran for 8.5

You have to reset it because it locked out on on under frequency. Just pullout the fuse on the control panel and then reinstall it a couple of seconds later. Now it will reset the fault codes. Hope that helps.

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