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Anonymous Posted on Jun 02, 2013

Why is motor not running now?

I just replaced #1 head and valves. ran pefect for 6 hours then was backfiring while running. now you turn key and it only clicks with partial turnover

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It sounds like you made a bad valve adjustment and it has thrown a rod, and binding on one cylinder, hence partial turnover, cylinder on compression. Pull apart again and re-check.

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