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Posted on Mar 19, 2009

Water softener using too much salt and brine overfills

Water softener use to use 8 bags a week, now using 15-20 bags of salt. this is a commercial twin unit

  • jdthefixer May 11, 2010

    Check the regeneration cycle timer and make sure the paramters are all set correctly.....it's possibel that the regen timer is not functioning correctly or that one of the valves are stuck open.

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vacwater

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  • Posted on Nov 20, 2009

SOURCE: No salt leaving Culligan softener during regen

It sounds like your salt in your salt compartment is stuck. Poor about a couple of gallons of hot water on top of your salt and see if that will break it up and fall down to the bottom of your salt container. Then regenerate your softener after about 3 hours have gone by. You should be back in business.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 22, 2009

SOURCE: I have a culligan,gold series water softener.The

call your culligan service department. they will tell you what to look for.

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RJ H2O

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  • Posted on Nov 27, 2011

SOURCE: What is Salt Bridging in a Culligan Water Softener

Salt bridging can occur in any water softener "salt tank". A salt bridge occurs when a hard crust of salt develops across the salt tank when the salt wicks up moisture. The salt does not fall down in the salt tank in between regenerations and a "bridge" occurs. It may look like the salt tank is full but there will be a hollow area at the bottom of the salt tank and not enough salt to develop the proper brine for regeneration of softener. This generally happens when the salt tank is a least 1/2 full of salt. If the system has a separate salt tank, shaking the tank will break the bridge usually. Gently poking a stick at the bridge can break it up also but can damage the salt grid if you poke the stick too far down in the salt tank. Certain salts, such as pellet salt are highly prone to this problem. Using Dura Cube, Hardi Cube or Solar salt will greatly reduce the chance of bridging. Any time a salt bridge occurs it will take 3 regenerations of the water softener (in 24 hrs), after fixing it, to regain the reserve capacity and totally soft water.
RJ

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Kenmore Water Softener. It is using excessive salt?

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Why a softener is using too much salt? Often the culprit is that higher than necessary concentrations of brine flow through the resin during regeneration, or the brine flows through for too long of a time period. In these cases, the excess salt just ends up wasted down the drain.

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Water softener salt bridging

One of the most frequent problems with water softening systems is salt bridging in the salt/brine tank. There are several reasons for salt bridging to occur. This generally occurs when pellet type salts or potassium chloride is used to regenerate the water softening system. Pellet type salts contain binding agents that in turn give the salt a very starchy consistency when wet. As water evaporates in the brine tank the pellet salts partially dissolve, bind together and form a "salt bridge" in the tank. Potassium chloride (Kcl) acts in the same way. Excess water in the salt tank, with high salt levels, can also cause salt bridging. Improper softener brining and lack of proper brine refill will cause bridging to occur as well.

What is the best way to alleviate these problems?

1. When using pellet type salts or potassium chloride only keep the salt tank about 1/2 full. This prevents too much compaction of the salts and helps to prevent bridging. When using potassium chloride get the salt tank off the floor on a wooden platform to prevent wicking of moisture from concrete floors.

2. Use a high grade of salt. Most water treatment dealers use either
DuraCube or HardiCube water softener salts produced by Cargill Corp.
Cargill has a link to find dealers in your area.
https://saltapps.cargill.com/cargillsalt/product_locator_new.asp

Solar Salt is another option as the crystal structure is very hard and virtually impossible to bridge. This is also available from many Cargill salt dealers and in stores.

3. Let the salt tank run down to 80-100lbs of salt or potassium a couple times per year to help prevent buildup of dissolved salts in brine tank.

4. Yearly maintenance of the water treatment system helps also. Restrictions in the brining system (injector/eductor assembly) caused by sediment and oxidized iron buildup cause improper brining and too much water in salt tank during refill. Have this assembly cleaned yearly. Have the water tested to see if the water chemistry or usage have changed and adjustments to the system are necessary.

5. Avoid using rock salts to prevent buildup of sediment in brine tank (which causes service problems).

Practice these tips and you will have fewer water softener problems and more consistent quality softened water.

I wish you good water!
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Softener not filtering water through the salt and not draining water from tank

What model of water softener do you have ? The one you have on here is for a chemical, not a water softener. Usually it is the brine injector or commonly called the nozzle/venture that gets clogged and will not create a vacuum to draw out the brine water. If you can put a picture of your water softener on here. I'd be more than happy to help you out.
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Water softener fills up with water

If you are referring to the salt tank filling with water, then the problem is the eductor assembly. This is where the brine is drawn from the salt tank. If it is plugged no brine or very little brine will be drawn during regeneration. You will need to clean the eductor assembly and manually regenerate the softener to regain softened water.
What model softener is it? It would help to bail most of the water out of the salt tank. How much depends on the model.
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FILM ON GLASSES, IS THIS HARD WATER, MIGHT BE MY WATER SOFTENER??

Film on the glasses may be a sign that the softener is not working correctly. It may sound silly but check the obvious first, is there salt in the softener brine tank? if not fill it up, allow it to sit for at least 8 hours then manually regenerate the unit. Also check the power to the softener. Check to make sure the bypass is not open. If this stuff is ok then have a local reputable water treatment company come out and test the water hardness to make sure the softener is working correctly. If they say it is not working check the brine draw tubing. The most common failure is from a slight leak in the brine draw tubing which keeps the unit from regenerating effectively. During the brine draw phase of regeneration (2nd step) the softener should draw all the water from the brine tank. Repair or replace the tubing as needed.
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DISHES COMING OUT WHITE PUT IN SALT BUT NO DIFFERENCE

Not sure what model dishwasher you are having.

If you have hard water and are using water softener then you may have to adjust the setting of the softener.

If your dishwasher has separate brine reservoir to control hard water then brine pump may not be letting enough water go through the reservoir to disolve the salt.

Make sure the rinse aid has not entered into the softener reservoir.
Clean the dishes coming with white residue using vinegar solution.
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I inherited a water softener system with the house - I do not have any manual or cannot see the name anywhere. It worked fine for 4 years and now it's stopped and do not know what to do? We added the...

There are a number of things that it could be. The main problem is that the softner is not sucking the brine into the tank. It still ran water into you tank till the safety shutoff stopped it. This made all the salt turn into a big lump. You will need to find out why the unit does not have suction when it is in the "brine and rinse" mode. Probably either the float in the brine tank is stuck or there is dirt in the screen at the top of the hose out of the brine tank that is stopping the brine from being sucked up the hose. First empty the tank and then you can see what the unit is doing from there.
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System 19 - No salt being used

The eductor assembly is plugged. This is where the brine is drawn in to regenerate softener. Softener will not draw in proper amount of brine but will keep filling salt tank. The float in salt tank is suppose to stop overfilling but rarely works that way. Bypass softener run through quick manual cycle and unscrew eductor assembly on lower left side of valve body. Clean it all out, reinstall and run system to brine refill to evacuate air.
RJ
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