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dave Posted on Dec 18, 2012

Replacing a triple single pole (1980's) with a

Replacing a triple single pole (1980's) with a cooper 7729w I am concerned about the 3 "extra" wires on bottom of old switch also the 2 purple lines does this represent the first pole being a 2 way? I have another switch on opposite wall that works same light

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The Cooper 7729w is a three pole single throw switch with a common (connected) hot wire that supplies it. What you had before was two separate single pole single throw switches and one single pole double throw switch that is used as a three way. The short answer is NO that replacement will not work UNLESS you don't want the other switch on the other side of the room to work.


Personally, I think that if you really need to ask this question you need to seek the advice of a professional electrician.

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SOURCE: Wiring to a 3 single pole combination switch

run 14-2 wire to power switches, then run one 14-3 wire and one 14-2 up to fixture..you will have an extra neutral but its okay... just tie all nuetrals together....this gives you the needed 3 hot wires!

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SOURCE: need to know wiring diagram for cooper single pole lighted switch

well lets see on one side you should have two brass screws that would be to interupt your lead to the fixture then you either have a brass and silver screws on the other side or you have black and white wires the black or brass is always hot the silver or white is neutral does that answer your question if not hit me back with a description of what your switch looks like

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 29, 2010

SOURCE: how to wire a cooper industries 6107 3-way motion detector switch

I opened the box and traced the lines to see which are connected
when the switch is turned on and I left the red wire disconnected.

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  • Posted on Apr 29, 2010

SOURCE: Replacing old light switch, only use copper wires?

house wired in aluminum

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Anonymous

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SOURCE: I need the wiring diagram

I have 120Volt cooper 277 pilot light switch here in my office.
Dang instruction sheet shows wiring for all kinds of cooper devices.
EXCEPT pilot light switch.

So I tested with multimeter and came up with following:
Key to any wiring device is color of screws.
Hot from breaker box always goes to dark-colored screws.
Neutral always goes to silver-colored screws.
Brass screws are for Hot wires from breaker or Hot going to Load
Green screw - ground
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Cooper tr274v wiring diagram

Are you installing a combination switch-outlet?
What are you replacing? A switch? Is switch single pole or 3-way?
Or are you replacing outlet.
Do you have the Cooper TR274V?
Which device do you have?
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-Replace-outlet-with-combo-switch.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-combination-switch-outlet.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-switches.html#5245

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TR274 & TR 291 Wiring Diagrams

Copy following link for specific wiring diagrams for combo switches:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-switches.html#combo2
Combo switches require Neutral wire in the box.
Neutral wires are usually the white wires twisted together, covered with wire nut, and pushed to back of box.

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Hooked this product up flipped all three and only light and heater come on no exhaust fan

there should be a hot wire to the fan just look for the other wire one for fan one light one heat its there, good luck
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I have a single pole switch that currently controls a bedroom outlet. i am installing a fan and light in the bedroom. i have a new triple switch that i want to control the existing outlet, the fan and the...

Wiring is not fully described: Location of hot wire and neutral wire from breaker box are unknown.
If Hot wire arrives in ceiling box first, the switch box will not have white neutral wires that are twisted together and covered with wire nut. Neutrals will be in ceiling box.

What is known: You are replacing single pole switch attached to one 14-2 wire going to light.
You are replacing light with a fan-light and replacing switch with a 3-pole TM8111 switch.
You have replaced 14-2 wire with 12-3 wire.

TM8111 wiring shows following link:
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Assume neutrals in ceiling box.
Assume Hot wire in ceiling box: Connect 12-3 black wire to black Hot wire. Connect 12-3 white wire to black wire on light. Connect 12-3 red to red wire on fan.
White neutral from fan and white neutral form light connect to other white neutral wires and covered with wire nut.
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Black Hot wire from ceiling box connects to A COM terminal.
White wire to ceiling light connects to A SP2
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I replaced a triple pole switch. Now only one switch works. Any advise?

If I understand correctly, you replaced a triple pole switch with another triple pole switch?

The key to replacing electrical devices is noting color of each screw.
Hot goes to dark screw.
Load wires going to each light connect to brass screws.
Neutral wires do not connect to switches.

Electricians don't guess, they test.
Separate wires for testing.
Tape tester leads to wood sticks to keep hands away from power.
Turn power ON.
Test each wire to bare ground wire.
Tester lights up on Hot wire.
This is the wire that comes from circuit breaker.
Hot wire connects to dark screw.
Connect each of the other wires to brass screws, and use switch to test which wire goes to which Load.

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I have a Cooper Triple Single Pole Switch. I want to connect my bath light and fan combo unit and a separate light above my mirror. If I plug the HOT wire to the single black screw, that leaves me with 4...

The information is a bit sketchy, and you can add a comment with more information.

1) You have a triple switch with dark screw
(s) on one side of device.
You know that Hot attaches to dark screw.
On opposite side of switch are 3 screws.
1 screw is for wire going to bath fan.
1 screw is for wire going to bath light.
1 screw is for wire going to separate light above mirror.
If you do not have a separate wire running to each Load, then you need to add a wire.

2) If I understand correctly, your wall box contains several cables
Each cable has a black and white wire.
Ground wires are twisted together and connected to green screw, and are not discussed.

3) Cable1 black and white are Hot and Neutral from breaker box.
Are you sure?
Test each wire in box to bare ground to find hot wire.
Test hot wire to each wire to find neutral wire.
If power comes from junction box on ceiling, wall box might not have neutral wire.
If neutral wire was used to complete circuits for previous switch, then it is used the same for new switch. That's where the information is sketchy.

You have 4 white wires
1 white goes to each load
1 white is neutral
Where are the black wires associated with these white wires?
Add a comment and say how many cables and where each wire was connected before.

Here's how to start.
Connect Hot to dark screw.
One at a time, connect each white to screw on other side of switch.
Turn on power and flip the switch.
If load turns ON, then that wire is correct.
If load does not turn ON, then leave switch ON. Test each of the other white wires to bare ground to see if this wire should connect to neutral. Then connect that wire to neutral and test switch again.
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You should be able to return the switch and get the correct one.

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