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We can't get the volume loud enough to hear when we record to a CD

Our church uses this machine to record our sermons (audio only) to a CD. We have 'finalized' the CD, use 'analog' and have turned the volume up. Yet, you can hardly hear it. What are we doing wrong? Please. Thank you.

  • Eliezer Pennywhistler
    Eliezer Pennywhistler Nov 12, 2012

    1)  That's not a minidisc recorder.2)  Did it ever work right?  If so, what's different now?3)  My first guess is that you plugged the microphone into the LINE input

  • Sam Palermo
    Sam Palermo Jan 29, 2013

    How can a mic be plugged into an RCA jack? I have been involved in Church sound systems and the most likely issue is not understanding the levels involved in using equipment. I stand ready to advise people of the correction if they would contact me with a phone number. Send an E mail to [email protected] and I will talk to you then.

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Well, the Tascam is a professional-level unit, BUT the specs say "The CD-RW900SL provides dedicated analog front panel input control, rear panel unbalanced (RCA) I/O".

That would be -10. So don't buy any converters yet, church people.

Does the mic go through a mixer, or have you plugged the mic directly into a line input? I still think that is your problem.

Did it ever work right? Is there an output volume on the mic mixer? Is there an input volume on the CD recorder (as my CD recorder has)? Have you tried a different CD recorder? Have you read the owner's manual? Who sold this item to you? What do they say?

You need to communicate before we can go farther.

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This unit is a pro unit that makes use of XLR type inputs. These are typically at +4 dBm signal level not that of the -10 from RCA type mixing boards. So what you need to do is take the RCA outputs from your source and hook them to a IHF or unbalanced to Balanced converter and they are available from MCM Electronics. This device here should take care of the problem.
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/555-8485

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The input side is the end one adjusts for to ensure good audio capture without distortion.

One it's digital you can play it as loud as you like.

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Mastering as well occurs in real time, so it does take 60 minutes to create a master for a 60 minute recording.

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Anyway, as I said you might wish to go the PC route. That way you can export the tracks without having to master them and burn them from the PC to CD at up to 40x (depending on the speed of your PC's burner).

Hope this helps.

bd.
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