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reluc Posted on Jul 17, 2012

CB base Station picking up interfence with inverter

Every time I have the Inverter (12V DC/120 AC) I get interference on the CB. If I turn the inverter off, no interference. The CB and inverter run on the same battery. The battery and inverter are about 20 feet from the CB unit. What can cause the interference? I bought a a quality inverter to make sure and no changes

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Inverters are full of diodes and diodes are extremly noisy devices. Also the filtering in CB radios is not the best as manufactures try to keep costs down to compete. Try unplugging the antenna from the radio and see if the noise stops. If it does not stop, then buy an inline filter to go in the supply to the radio and place it as close to the radio as possible. If the noise DOES STOP when the antenna is unplugged then it is coming in through the antenna and there is not much you can do but maybe buy a much higher quality radio with better filtering. You might try moving the antenna. Magnet mounts are not as good at blocking noise as high quality permanent mounts. Work to get your SWR as low as possible. Use high grade low loss coax from the antenna into the radio and use high quality connectors like the Amphenol brand. It takes time and effort to solve this type problem and some times nothing works.

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SOURCE: CB Base Station picking up electrical interference

i dont know what AC DC adator your using. you should look into a 12V power supply. or plugging that into a RF canceling power strip, like a monster power strip. TV's that are on or other appliances may cause high noise levels on the CB, make sure your coax is good, your antennas good, and all jumpers are good. its hard to tell with out looking at it, but do a quick once over of the system.... you are using a base antenna right? if not you need to create radials for a mobile you plan on using for a base.

Make sure the connectors on the coax are all on right, this causes problems a lot of the time. sometimes even brand new coax have bad connectors installed.

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