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Anonymous Posted on Jun 23, 2012

What will cause your speed odometer gages go nuts and your brake lights to stop working?

My odometer gages and fuel gages are going nuts... and sometimes this causes my rear brake lights not to work. What is causing this? HELP!!

  • Anonymous Jun 23, 2012

    the fuses have already been checked. I would have to slap the dash board to get them to stop going nuts. the rpm gage finally just stopped working its all the way over to the right. and now the mph gage and fuel gage is acting up. its really ticking me off. I dont know if all this has anything to do with the brake lights to not work sometimes...

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SOURCE: Instrument cluster failure causes fuse #29 to blow.

ok it could be quite simple
lets look at wrong size fuse
example 15 and you need a 25 fuse
also if you did any work on vehicle its quite possible that you grounded something out wrong retrace your work and fix accordingly
bad cluster relay is another problem that would cause these problems

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SOURCE: what causes both brake and

Many cars have the same fuse for turn signal and brake lights. Check that fuse for a start.

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SOURCE: 1989 Ford ranger rear antilock light on rear brakes lock up

metal particles on the trigger wheel sensor of the rear differential case, this causes a loose of signal and the light to come on. also a broken tooth on the trigger wheel inside the diff can cause this or a dirty/corroded connection to the sensor from water intrusion.

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  • Posted on Mar 09, 2009

SOURCE: rear wiper stopped working

my 2004 expedition had same problem, if you take apart the shaft that goes thru the glass it will be full of dirt, clean ,lubricate and reinstall, you may have to replace the O-ring on the shaft. a 20 minute job, very easy fix

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  • Posted on Jul 08, 2009

SOURCE: what causes the brakes to go out

it might be your master cylinder..."my brakes go out" is not the best description. if the pedal feels very soft, or goes all the way to the floor, then its probably the master cylinder. also, if you just had break work done, then its possible that not all the air go blead out of the system. if the breaks are hard to push, then your break booster may have a leak..

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My mph, gas, and temp gauges are not working

That's why you don't let you husband work on your car ! Unless he does it for a living .. For MPH there is a VSS - vehicle speed sensor , for the gas there is a sending unit in the fuel tank, for the temp. gauge there is a temp. sensor located in coolant stream on the engine .You more then likely need to have you instrument cluster repaired . GM had a problem with step motors inside the instrument cluster . A step motor is what controls the individual gauge. The sensors are all inputs to the PCM - powertrain control module (engine computer ) .
Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The IPC displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the PCM. The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to C or below if:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with the PCM.

Fuel Gage
The IPC displays the fuel level as determined by the PCM. The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the fuel level percent. The fuel gage defaults to empty if:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with the PCM.

When the fuel level is less than 14% (84ohms), the low fuel indicator illuminates.
Odometer
The IPC contains a season odometer and a trip odometer. Momentarily press the trip select/reset switch in order to toggle between the season odometer and the trip odometer. Press the trip select/reset switch for greater than 1.5 seconds, while the trip odometer is displayed, in order to reset the trip odometer. The IPC displays the vehicle mileage and trip mileage as determined by the IPC. The IPC calculates the mileage based on the vehicle speed information from the PCM. The odometer will display 'error' if an internal IPC memory failure is detected.
PRNDL Display
The IPC displays the selected gear position as determined by the PCM. The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the gear position. The PRNDL display shall flash all gear positions if:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the transmission range switch circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with the PCM.

Speedometer
The IPC displays the vehicle speed based on the information from the PCM. The PCM converts the data from the vehicle speed sensor to a 4000 pulses per mile signal. The IPC uses the vehicle speed signal circuit from the PCM in order to calculate the vehicle speed. The speedometer defaults to 0 mph (0 kph) if a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit exists.
Tachometer
The IPC displays the engine speed as determined by the PCM. The IPC receives a class 2 message from the PCM indicating the engine speed. The tachometer will default to 0 rpm if:
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The PCM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of class 2 communications with the PCM.

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While driving antitheft light comes on and all the gauges go flat,car keeps runnig,want to disable system,not sure what to look for

Before doing something drastic ,have it checked out for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes . It may not be the anti-theft system ,gauges going flat would be more like a communication problem between modules . PCM / BCM / instrument cluster etc.. That also could cause theft light coming on . If your not sure what to look for ,take it to a ASE certified professional . You may render your vehicle useless if you don't know what your doing .
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Serial Data Messages The modules that depend exclusively on serial data messages for power modes. stay in the state dictated by the last valid PMM message until they can check for the engine run flag status on the serial data circuits. If the PMM fails, the modules monitor the serial data circuit for the engine run flag serial data. If the engine run flag serial data is True, indicating that the engine is running, the modules fail-safe to RUN. In this state, the modules and their subsystems can support all operator requirements. If the engine run flag serial data is False, indicating that the engine is not running, the modules fail-safe to OFF-AWAKE. In this state, the modules are constantly checking for a change status message on the serial data circuits and can respond to both local inputs and serial data inputs from other modules on the vehicle.
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Engine Coolant Temperature Gage
The instrument panel cluster (IPC) displays the engine coolant temperature as determined by the powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM). The IPC receives a serial data message from the PCM/ECM indicating the engine coolant temperature. The engine coolant temperature gage defaults to 38?°C (100?°F) if:
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine coolant temperature sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

Fuel Gage
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the fuel level sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communications from the BCM.

When the fuel level is less than 14 percent, the low fuel indicator illuminates.
Odometer
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Speedometer
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The powertrain control module (PCM) or the engine control module (ECM) detects a malfunction in the vehicle speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

Tachometer
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The PCM/ECM detects a malfunction in the engine speed sensor circuit.


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The IPC detects a loss of serial data communication from the BCM.

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